[PRCo] *In Pittsburgh...* *......the Greatest City In The U.S.*

[PC]

Mr.Brannon supplied the figures and I believe the website for Cleveland transit is where it was posted.  As this was within the last
year or two I was surprized because of the recession.  I made a point of checking (maybe a news article in Cleveland) and the
numbers were positive increase in ridership.  I was amazed at the results.  It is in the archives of this list but I am not looking for it.


Pc



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On Sun, 11/24/13, Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [PRCo] *In Pittsburgh...* *......the Greatest City In The U.S.*
 To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
 Date: Sunday, November 24, 2013, 8:32 AM
 
 Do not know where you find positive
 Cleveland numbers…..  
 
 Since it was not posted to the website, I can only believe
 the year over year steady gains were revenue losses or
 ridership losses that impressed you.   
 
 Light rail, aka Shaker Rapid … Peak year was 1948 with
 7.437 million.   In 1996 they hauled 3.847
 million. In 2012 it was 2.855 million fares.   
 The 1995 and 2013 numbers were those that the RTA reported
 to APTA.
 
 The heavy rail numbers for 1995 and 2013 sere 5.140 million
 and 6.240 million.   Herb Brannon once told
 me that the highest average weekday volume before the
 airport extension was around 50,000 a day … that would be
 about 15 million a year.
 
 Bus numbers for 1995 were 50.2 million and for 2012 38.5
 million.   
 
 Overall, including demand responsive riders, it has
 dropped  10.6 million a year since 1996, not
 risen.   It has dropped 22% while the
 population has done down about 21% in the same period …
 cannot tell exactly because we can only extrapolate the the
 population drop in the intercensal
 periods.   But it looks like its going down
 proportionally with the loss of people living in
 Cleveland.   
 
 Here is the APTA website:
 
 http://www.apta.com/resources/statistics/Pages/ridershipreport.aspx
 
 On Nov 24, 2013, at 8:10 AM, PC wrote:
 
 > I was very much impressed with Cleveland transit
 statistics Mr.Brannon; they realized year over year steady
 gains.  One would suspect such to be 'a' measure
 > of economic health--people traveling back and forth to
 work and-or to shopping.  Yet the situation for the
 nation is still bad; maybe Cleveland is still doing better
 than the
 > average nationally.
 > 
 > The city has received some bad press with the women
 captives recently released and negative police
 reports.  But such is possible most anywhere today.
 > 
 > I have not been in Pgh in decades.  I shall look
 into these books.
 > 
 > 
 > Phil
 > 
 > 
 
 
 
 
 
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