[PRCo] LIBRARY 1953.06.28

[Holland, James B.]

>> On 2014-09-03 14:00, Holland, James B. wrote:
>>
>> Enclosed is a copy of the LIBRARY Schedule the day after service to 
>> Charleroi Terminated.  Apparently the Castle Shannon service 
>> continues -- whether or not interlined with Library I do not know at 
>> this point.  Washington service is hourly with hourly cars from Drake 
>> wye near Walthers stop, drake cars 30-min after a Washington car, by 
>> schedule.
>>
>> Castle Shannon had Owl service as well -- those times marked with an 
>> asterisk* left IB from Castle Shannon or OB to Castle Shannon from 
>> downtown Pgh.
>>
>> Castle Shannon cars used the 38-Mt.Lebanon outbound in the morning 
>> rush and inbound in the evening rush to lessen congestion through the 
>> single track.  The two extra sidings (McKinley Park and Edgebrook) 
>> were added "about this time" but may not have been installed by the 
>> time Washington Interurban service ended late-August-1953.
>>
>> 35_19530628_50.jpg
>>
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> On Wed Sep 3 17:16:22 EDT 2014, Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net 
> wrote:
>
> Non-rush hour service on Rt. 37 had ended before that schedule was 
> operative.  When that occurred the Shannon-Charleroi or 
> Shannon-Washington roll signs started appearing, to designate cars 
> that made all local stops between the Triangle and Castle Shannon.  
> Certain interurban rush hour trips operated "board only" between SHJ 
> and Frederick Street outbound after that, and I think, but am not 
> sure, the opposite inbound.
>
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>
> Dwight


Hi, Dwight And Herb!

I think local Shannon service continued in 1951 and possibly up to 1953; 
all that happened as far as Charleroi and Washington cars are the 
following 2-items:  -1-)--They did not run in tandem but were 15-minutes 
apart; -2-)--they ran local most of the time with some rush-hour 
quasi-limited service through the single track thru Overbrook.

Please take a look at the service for All Interurbans on 
30-Aug-1953----After the Washington line was abandoned.  Service through 
Overbrook was every 10-minutes -- this in the Fall of 1953! Local 
Shannon service was still needed in 1951 -- somewhere I have seen 
7-8+minute headway through Overbrook mid-day in the early 1950s!  Thus, 
there was a local car (37/L) mid-way between the 15-min headway 
alternating between Charleroi and Washington.

Chris Walker has his degree in "media" but please do not quote me on 
that; he does have his degree, however.  He is current Pat employee in 
the schedule dept and very active PTM volunteer -- he has a way to go to 
hit the 30+Mark!  But he has done some schedule research in the 
PTM-Archive that was a real eye-opener.  I have searched his email but 
can not find the reference; it may be on another computer and difficult 
to find.  I shall write him again but his schedule is demanding; he does 
not have much opportunity to write.

Charleroi Ops had a Pittsburgh and separate Charleroi crews.  Crews 
would trade at Riverview loop; they did not operate the whole line but 
stayed "local!"

HERB:  The Library schedule June-28-1953 is an interim schedule until 
Washington is abandoned end-of-Aug-1953-------this is only 2-months 
after Charleroi.  As noted above, mid-day Service through Overbrook was 
every 10+min in the Fall of 1953 -- Library itself was every 20-minutes 
mid-day!  Service was still quite intense.

I forget the exact date but 42-Dormont was every minute in the PM rush 
for about 30+min give or take; 38-Mt.Lebanon was every 2-minutes.  This 
about 1951-1953.

Thank You for the information on the book; I certainly look forward to 
publication.  Yes; color should be improved.  But I like Ed's photos and 
captions -- he had previous books including several different systems up 
the Ohio in addition to PRCo that is priceless in this regard.  Great 
photos and captions that really tell a story!  I like Ed's books 
infinitely better than the C.E.R.A. pub; what a fiasco.


Jim