[PRCo] LIBRARY 1953.06.28

[Dwight Long]

I'm virtually certain the non-peak 37 service ceased at the same time the former practice of the interurbans running in tandem from Washington Jct. to the Triangle ceased.  I know I have the date at home and if I can remember I'll look it up.  Maybe someone can remind me to do so tomorrow as after that I'm off to the Hoosier Traction Meet until Sunday.

Dwight
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Holland, James B. 
  To: 1711_PRCo_WP_JTC 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] LIBRARY 1953.06.28


  >> On 2014-09-03 14:00, Holland, James B. wrote:
  >>
  >> Enclosed is a copy of the LIBRARY Schedule the day after service to 
  >> Charleroi Terminated.  Apparently the Castle Shannon service 
  >> continues -- whether or not interlined with Library I do not know at 
  >> this point.  Washington service is hourly with hourly cars from Drake 
  >> wye near Walthers stop, drake cars 30-min after a Washington car, by 
  >> schedule.
  >>
  >> Castle Shannon had Owl service as well -- those times marked with an 
  >> asterisk* left IB from Castle Shannon or OB to Castle Shannon from 
  >> downtown Pgh.
  >>
  >> Castle Shannon cars used the 38-Mt.Lebanon outbound in the morning 
  >> rush and inbound in the evening rush to lessen congestion through the 
  >> single track.  The two extra sidings (McKinley Park and Edgebrook) 
  >> were added "about this time" but may not have been installed by the 
  >> time Washington Interurban service ended late-August-1953.
  >>
  >> 35_19530628_50.jpg
  >>
  >
  > On Wed Sep 3 17:16:22 EDT 2014, Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net 
  > wrote:
  >
  > Non-rush hour service on Rt. 37 had ended before that schedule was 
  > operative.  When that occurred the Shannon-Charleroi or 
  > Shannon-Washington roll signs started appearing, to designate cars 
  > that made all local stops between the Triangle and Castle Shannon.  
  > Certain interurban rush hour trips operated "board only" between SHJ 
  > and Frederick Street outbound after that, and I think, but am not 
  > sure, the opposite inbound.
  >
  > ------- [ --- Snipped --- ] -------
  >
  > Dwight


  Hi, Dwight And Herb!

  I think local Shannon service continued in 1951 and possibly up to 1953; 
  all that happened as far as Charleroi and Washington cars are the 
  following 2-items:  -1-)--They did not run in tandem but were 15-minutes 
  apart; -2-)--they ran local most of the time with some rush-hour 
  quasi-limited service through the single track thru Overbrook.

  Please take a look at the service for All Interurbans on 
  30-Aug-1953----After the Washington line was abandoned.  Service through 
  Overbrook was every 10-minutes -- this in the Fall of 1953! Local 
  Shannon service was still needed in 1951 -- somewhere I have seen 
  7-8+minute headway through Overbrook mid-day in the early 1950s!  Thus, 
  there was a local car (37/L) mid-way between the 15-min headway 
  alternating between Charleroi and Washington.

  Chris Walker has his degree in "media" but please do not quote me on 
  that; he does have his degree, however.  He is current Pat employee in 
  the schedule dept and very active PTM volunteer -- he has a way to go to 
  hit the 30+Mark!  But he has done some schedule research in the 
  PTM-Archive that was a real eye-opener.  I have searched his email but 
  can not find the reference; it may be on another computer and difficult 
  to find.  I shall write him again but his schedule is demanding; he does 
  not have much opportunity to write.

  Charleroi Ops had a Pittsburgh and separate Charleroi crews.  Crews 
  would trade at Riverview loop; they did not operate the whole line but 
  stayed "local!"

  HERB:  The Library schedule June-28-1953 is an interim schedule until 
  Washington is abandoned end-of-Aug-1953-------this is only 2-months 
  after Charleroi.  As noted above, mid-day Service through Overbrook was 
  every 10+min in the Fall of 1953 -- Library itself was every 20-minutes 
  mid-day!  Service was still quite intense.

  I forget the exact date but 42-Dormont was every minute in the PM rush 
  for about 30+min give or take; 38-Mt.Lebanon was every 2-minutes.  This 
  about 1951-1953.

  Thank You for the information on the book; I certainly look forward to 
  publication.  Yes; color should be improved.  But I like Ed's photos and 
  captions -- he had previous books including several different systems up 
  the Ohio in addition to PRCo that is priceless in this regard.  Great 
  photos and captions that really tell a story!  I like Ed's books 
  infinitely better than the C.E.R.A. pub; what a fiasco.


  Jim



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