[PRCo] LIBRARY 1953.06.28

[Fred Schneider]

Was not running in 1952 when I first rode out to Castle Shannon.  Was rush hour only.


On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Holland, James B. wrote:

>>> On 2014-09-03 14:00, Holland, James B. wrote:
>>> 
>>> Enclosed is a copy of the LIBRARY Schedule the day after service to 
>>> Charleroi Terminated.  Apparently the Castle Shannon service 
>>> continues -- whether or not interlined with Library I do not know at 
>>> this point.  Washington service is hourly with hourly cars from Drake 
>>> wye near Walthers stop, drake cars 30-min after a Washington car, by 
>>> schedule.
>>> 
>>> Castle Shannon had Owl service as well -- those times marked with an 
>>> asterisk* left IB from Castle Shannon or OB to Castle Shannon from 
>>> downtown Pgh.
>>> 
>>> Castle Shannon cars used the 38-Mt.Lebanon outbound in the morning 
>>> rush and inbound in the evening rush to lessen congestion through the 
>>> single track.  The two extra sidings (McKinley Park and Edgebrook) 
>>> were added "about this time" but may not have been installed by the 
>>> time Washington Interurban service ended late-August-1953.
>>> 
>>> 35_19530628_50.jpg
>>> 
>> 
>> On Wed Sep 3 17:16:22 EDT 2014, Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Non-rush hour service on Rt. 37 had ended before that schedule was 
>> operative.  When that occurred the Shannon-Charleroi or 
>> Shannon-Washington roll signs started appearing, to designate cars 
>> that made all local stops between the Triangle and Castle Shannon.  
>> Certain interurban rush hour trips operated "board only" between SHJ 
>> and Frederick Street outbound after that, and I think, but am not 
>> sure, the opposite inbound.
>> 
>> ------- [ --- Snipped --- ] -------
>> 
>> Dwight
> 
> 
> Hi, Dwight And Herb!
> 
> I think local Shannon service continued in 1951 and possibly up to 1953; 
> all that happened as far as Charleroi and Washington cars are the 
> following 2-items:  -1-)--They did not run in tandem but were 15-minutes 
> apart; -2-)--they ran local most of the time with some rush-hour 
> quasi-limited service through the single track thru Overbrook.
> 
> Please take a look at the service for All Interurbans on 
> 30-Aug-1953----After the Washington line was abandoned.  Service through 
> Overbrook was every 10-minutes -- this in the Fall of 1953! Local 
> Shannon service was still needed in 1951 -- somewhere I have seen 
> 7-8+minute headway through Overbrook mid-day in the early 1950s!  Thus, 
> there was a local car (37/L) mid-way between the 15-min headway 
> alternating between Charleroi and Washington.
> 
> Chris Walker has his degree in "media" but please do not quote me on 
> that; he does have his degree, however.  He is current Pat employee in 
> the schedule dept and very active PTM volunteer -- he has a way to go to 
> hit the 30+Mark!  But he has done some schedule research in the 
> PTM-Archive that was a real eye-opener.  I have searched his email but 
> can not find the reference; it may be on another computer and difficult 
> to find.  I shall write him again but his schedule is demanding; he does 
> not have much opportunity to write.
> 
> Charleroi Ops had a Pittsburgh and separate Charleroi crews.  Crews 
> would trade at Riverview loop; they did not operate the whole line but 
> stayed "local!"
> 
> HERB:  The Library schedule June-28-1953 is an interim schedule until 
> Washington is abandoned end-of-Aug-1953-------this is only 2-months 
> after Charleroi.  As noted above, mid-day Service through Overbrook was 
> every 10+min in the Fall of 1953 -- Library itself was every 20-minutes 
> mid-day!  Service was still quite intense.
> 
> I forget the exact date but 42-Dormont was every minute in the PM rush 
> for about 30+min give or take; 38-Mt.Lebanon was every 2-minutes.  This 
> about 1951-1953.
> 
> Thank You for the information on the book; I certainly look forward to 
> publication.  Yes; color should be improved.  But I like Ed's photos and 
> captions -- he had previous books including several different systems up 
> the Ohio in addition to PRCo that is priceless in this regard.  Great 
> photos and captions that really tell a story!  I like Ed's books 
> infinitely better than the C.E.R.A. pub; what a fiasco.
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
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