[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh_PA about 1945--1948!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[John F Bromley]

Jim, get away from the BTC and St Louis' car 1600, it didn't happen - repeat
NO NO NO..  If you want more ask Fred.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Holland" <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:30 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh_PA about 1945--1948!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>
> Good Morning!
>
> > John F Bromley wrote:
>
> > Re: bvp007 - Bill Vigrass rode the 1600 in regular service and took the
two
> > shots of the car on the 48 ARLINGTON.  I asked Bill specific questions
about
> > the two negatives - it is Friday Oct 31, 1947 and IT IS NOT A FANTRIP.
>
> Thanks for the update, John.
>
> > I have no clue, Jim, where you got that bit about 1600 "possibly" being
> > built for Baltimore.
>
> Some Baltimore railfans have found documents among the BTC archives which
> *seem*  to indicate this but it is extremely difficult to pin down.
> PRCo apparently agreed to have one of the 16s built as the All-Electric
> Demonstrator After the order was placed for the series and the fact that
it
> arrived on the property so fast is an indication that the car was already
under
> construction.   This construction could have been for BTC.
> As I said, >>-->>  nothing conclusive  <<--<<, but an indication in this
> direction.
> And the fact that BTC purchased only Pullman PCCs after the initial SLC
order
> does not rule out that they could again purchase SLC.
>
> > bvp030 - all Bill's shots on Washington interurban were taken in 1948-
sorry
> > if the car isn't "equipped to your liking."
>
> It has nothing to do with being equipped to my liking but just recognizing
> certain facts in evidence.   The roof lights did not appear until  *about*
the
> time of the 17s but from other photo documentation, it  *seems*  that much
of
> the other interurban gear was present by 1948, including the spare trolley
poles
> which are lacking in these photos of 1613.   Impossible to make out enough
truck
> detail to see if the experimental B3s are yet installed, and these were
> installed by the summer of 1946 on both 1613 and 1614.   As you said, Bill
(and
> many photographers) do not always date the pictures accurately!!(:->)
>
> I have photos from other sources which state  *A*  date as 1961 and the
> interurbans sport spare trolley poles  --  truly a mistaken identity on
dates!!
> --  or at least a typo(:->)
>
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