[PRCo] ({[pat]}) Paint Schemes
Jim Holland
pghpcc at pacbell.net
Mon May 28 03:25:37 EDT 2001
Good Morning!!
Enclosed are *some* (by NO means ALL) gleanings from PTM//PRMA
~Trolley--Fare~ from 1964--1970 concerning the painting of ({[pat]})
equipment, but it starts with 1970 and works back.
Also enclosed somewhere within this listing is the reason for one cream
and one red dash light on 1697, a question poised by Ken, I
believe!<GGGGGG>
And as mentioned earlier, until ({[pat]}) had determined what
equipment it was responsible for, many cars were touched up with PRCo
paint as opposed to being painted in ({[pat]}) gray colors!
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>From ~Trolley Fare~ of March--1970,
a publication of the Pennsylvania Railway Museum Association.
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Gray with *white* roof::
1605 1702
1607 1743§*
1623 1762
1635 1767
1661
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Gray with *Gray* roof:
1704 1738
1706 1746
1711§ 1749§
1718 1757
1719
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PRCo Hourglass Front
1619 1722
1636 1724
1643 1744
1709 1763
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PRCo Hourglass Front
Centered Number
1748
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PRCo Solid Red Front
1601 1654 1727 1754
1603 1656 1731 1756
1604 1670 1734 1758
1616 1671 1735 1759
1617 1673 1736 1760
1624 1703 1740 1761
1628 1708 1741 1765
1632 1712 1742 1766
1639 1715 1745 1768
1642 1716 1747 1769
1649 1717 1751 1771
1650 1723 1752 1772
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PRCo Solid Red Front
Black Numbers
1613 1707
1620 1720
1637 1721
1646 1729
1659 1737
1660 1739
1700 1773
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PRCo "V" Front
1644 1713
1657 1728
1710
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PRCo Cream Top
Red Bottom
1614 1627 1651 1667
1615 1633 1652 1669
1621 1638 1662 1672
1622 1640 1664 1705
1626 1641 1666 1753
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Paint Scheme Not Available±
1631± 1726± 1730±
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† Out of Service
Paint Scheme Not Listed±
1714± 1733± 1764±
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‡ Stripped and//or Extensively Damaged
Paint Scheme Not Listed±
M1276
1609± 1663±
1618± 1732±
1653± 1755±
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§ First cars to receive PATs round emblem behind
front doors and in similar position on left side.
± Please see ~Trolley Fare~ of February--1967
for most recent paint scheme.
* I have a later photo which shows 1743 with an all--grey roof.
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>From ~Trolley Fare~ of June--1967
"PAT started to paint cars following the collision of 1743 with 1459.
The idea was to try three different levels of work, have the board
inspect and select one level for application to many of the remaining
car fleet. First PAT spent $3,000 to refurbish 1743s exterior, later
1749 and 1711 were painted. 1749 cost $1,000 for a paint job, while
1711 had a complete rebuild including new upholstery for $6,000. 1755
was next getting the medium price job and with the passing of the East
End it looked as if at least 30 cars would get painted. All as the
first three in a new paint scheme with a gray roof. Since these
auspicious beginnings there has been a steady decline in the
workmanship, poorer bodywork, noticeable spraymarks and OH! back to the
old habits of painting right over dirt and rust. 1746 recently emerged
looking very sloppy, at this rate the end of this painting program can't
come too soon."
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>From ~Trolley Fare~ of February--1967
PAT Paint Scheme
No distinction made between white or all gray roof.
1415 1702
1496 1711
1548 1743
1556 1749
1605 1755
1607 1762
1623 1767
1635 1797
1661
1678
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PRCo Hourglass Front
1449 1613 1709 1746
1502 1619 1717 1763
1516 1620 1720 1770
1519 1631 1722 1773
1527 1636 1723 1781
1538 1637 1724 1784
1543 1643 1726 1792
1550 1660 1736 1798
1563 1700 1744 1799
1612
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PRCo Original Red Front
1602
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PRCo Red Front
Side Number
1405 1549 1568 1731 1761
1412 1558 1659 1732 1764
1426 1601 1670 1733 1765
1436 1603 1671 1734 1766
1452 1604 1673 1735 1768
1455 1609 1674 1737 1769
1457 1616 1676 1738 1771
1464 1617 1703 1739 1772
1465 1618 1704 1740 1774
1466 1624 1706 1741 1775
1468 1628 1707 1742 1776
1470 1632 1708 1745 1779
1475 1634 1712 1747 1782
1500 1639 1714 1750 1783
1504 1642 1715 1751 1785
1513 1647 1716 1752 1786
1523 1649 1718 1754 1788
1525 1650 1719 1756 1793
1539 1653 1721 1757 1794
1540 1654 1727 1758 1795
1546 1655 1729 1759 1796
1547 1656 1730 1760
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PRCo "V" Front
1510 1561 1713
1514 1644 1728
1518 1646 1778
1520 1657 1780
1545 1710 1790
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PRCo Partial Simplified
(Not Defined!)
1436 1547
1518 1602
1527 1653
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PRCo Cream Top
Red Bottom
1419 1610 1640 1669
1431 1614 1641 1672
1440 1615 1651 1697
1460 1621 1652 1705
1509 1622 1662 1753
1511 1626 1663 1777
1515 1627 1664 1787
1522 1633 1666 1789
1553 1638 1667 1791
1564
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WABCo
1467
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Rear Safety Sign
1431 1522 1674 1735
1455 1603 1713 1758
1513 1610 1715 1782
1514 1646 1733 1788
1518
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Dash Lights
1617 1643 1709 1741
1619 1697 1721 1772
1620 1700 1722 1776
1624 1707 1738 1799
1632 1708
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SCRAPPING -- from ~Trolley Fare~
February--1967
"The scrapping of cars reported in our November 1966 issue wasn't quite
complete at that time. The 54 cars cut up to the time of that writing
are listed in that issue and the information below completes the job:"
1415 11.17.66
1422 11.15
1427 11.21
1441 11.17
1443 11.08
1461 11.08
1559 11.10
1683 11.15
1684 11.04
1690 11.04
1696 11.10
M18 11.28
M36 11.23
M52 12.05
M54 12.01
"The 1967 Scrapping Program
"As was briefly detailed in our last issue, the junk list due to the
East End 'busting' will be extensive; 90 PCC cars and 9 work cars. They
are as follows:"
"1400s -- Total of 20
1405 1436 1455 1466
1412 1440 1457 1468
1419 1449 1460 1479
1426 1451 1464 1475
1431 1452 1465 1496
1500s -- Total of 33
1500 1502 1504
1509--1511
1513--1516
1518--1520
1522--1523
1525 1527
1538--1540
1543
1545--1550
1553 1556 1558 1561
1563--1564
1600s -- Total of 10
1658 1676 1678 1697
plus 6 more WH cars not yet decided.
1700s -- Total of 27
1770 1774--1799
Work Cars -- Total of 9
M31 M39 M42
M37 M40 M455
M38 M41 M459
"It's pretty obvious that there's going to be a shortage of GE-equipped
PCCs around Pgh. in the future, in fact they'll be but one, M1276 which,
somehow, escaped the scrap list. There will also be but one 1400
remaining, WABCos 1467, which is due for further test operation next
spring and should be around for several more years at least."
"There's a move afoot in the PRMA to preserve the M37. 1547, which was
to have gone to Minneapolis, is included in the scrap list. 1770 and
1774, wrecked last summer, will be scrapped in spite of relatively mild
damage, particularly on the 1770. Things like this just might lead one
to believe (if he were not too perceptive) that PAT didn't care for rail
transit. But we all know that isn't true now, don't we???....., WELL,
DON'T WE!!!!"
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>From ~Trolley Fare~ Sept/Oct--1966
Random Notes.
"During the morning rush on Wednesday, August 17, cars 1770 and 1774
met head-on on the 42/38 line near the Castle Shannon end of the line.
._._. one car was loading passengers when the other rounded a blind
curve and hit it. Damages were apparently none too severe and it's
highly likely that they two cars will be repaired."
"Dash lights have been removed from 1616 and 1740."
"The demise of 1408 leaves not a single car in the original 1936 paint
scheme. Only 1602 retains the original style red front, but the roof of
the car has been repainted solid cream."
"By the way, Sunday service after Labor Day in Pittsburgh will be
provided by just 14 streetcars."
"Remember the 'V-front' paint scheme so popular just a few years
ago? There are now just 16-cars painted that way that are still
active. The green--on--white safety slogan signs which PRCo applied to
about 32 cars: Those are down to 14-active cars. One might think PAT
is trying to cover up the existence of PRCo?"
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>From ~Trolley Fare~ July--1966
PAT Colors
1451 1605 1678
1488 1607 1702
1496 1623 1762
1548 1635 1767
1556 1661 1797
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Cars with Dash Lights
1613 1643 1708 1739
1616 1681 1709* 1740
1617 1697 1718 1741
1619 1700 1721 1772
1620 1706 1722 1776
1624 1707 1738 1799
1632
* Only One Dash Light
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"Comments"
"Although the GE 1600s are getting the ax, 4 remain in service. 1697
presently has one dash light painted red and one painted white. It,
being the only simplified car to retain its dash lights, had them
painted red to match the rest of the belt rail. One got busted, hence
the white replacement. 1686 *was* the only V-front with dash lights."
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>From ~Trolley Fare~ April--1966
"New front paint touch-ups: Red fronts, 1433, 1532, 1546, 1674,
1738*, 1793*, 1779. *These [2] cars retained their dash lights and
1558 and 1673 got new V fronts."
"Cars with the PAT color scheme also got a touch-up: 1451, 1556,
1635, 1702, 1762, 1767, 1797."
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James B. Holland
Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), 1930 -- 1950
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