[PRCo] Re: West Penn Cars at PTM
Jim Holland
pghpcc at pacbell.net
Thu Nov 8 16:16:49 EST 2001
Good Morning!!
Welcome back, John --- guess you were away --- didn't see any posts for about a
week.
Some observations on the various comments and posts of the past week --- Not
criticisms!
> John Swindler wrote:
> .......But
> what I remember most was one speaker commenting that trolley museums were
> started as clubs, and far too many still have a club mentality when dealing
> with the public. Sort of 'it's our club, and visitors are tolerated, but
> not welcome'.
It seems that what is too easily forgotten is that if IS The RailFAN who started the
museums in the first place -- and now they *seem* to be denigrated as barriers to
serving the public. And as Fred has mentioned, it is the *Almighty--Dollar* which
actually rules, not People as individuals or groups.
I mentioned the *Almighty--Dollar* syndrome a couple years ago and got lambasted for
it --- but that *seems* to be what it boils down to!!
I am not at all interested in the *Dollar--Talks* syndrome --- that can also be an
*Excuse* for not doing something in addition to a Reason. But it has essentially pushed
the railfan out of the picture --- As Fred says, they only contribute 1% of the
income.
And quite honestly, as a Railfan, I feel pushed out of the picture at museums and get the
impressions that railfans are unwanted. But what many forget is that, By Definition,
Everyone at a trolleycar museum is a railfan. Denying it doesn't change the matter!
> .......The speaker also mentioned that the club mentality creates
> barriers to reaching out to the public, with the result that the museum is
> stuck with a declining, aging membership.
> Then about a month later attended a northeast region church conference in
> which the theme was reaching out to the public. As one speaker commented,
> in too many churches fellowship ends at the coffee table rather then
> reaching out into the community, with the result that many churches are
> stuck with a declining, aging membership.
But isn't this really the message of life --- it ends in *Death!* Why be surprized
when *Anything* dies --- an Individual, a Pet, an Organization --- even rocks in
the lmountains disintegrate into dust?!?! Grieve, yes, but Death is a part of living!
I am somewhat {morbidly)--amused at this effort at preserving trolleycars
*ad--infinitum* and beyond our own lifespan!! How many stage coach museums do we see
--- Ken will quickly tell us of at least one -- bet it takes some real digging to find
more, and Who Here has a listing of stage coach museums or really wants such a list(?)
-- and WHO of us would take the time to attend a stage coach museum? So fast--forward
to AD--2100 --- who will take the time to visit a trolleycar museum --- if they
still exist??
Also, we live in America -- the land of the free -- and are supposedly fighting a war
to defend that Freedom. Part of that Freedom is *Freedom--of--Choice.*
I--F a museum chooses the club mentality --- so be it. If they enjoy it, fine.
If the museum dies, so does everything and everyone else! Let a museum chart its own
destiny.
Those who will *possibly* derive the most enjoyment from the trolley museums are those
who associated with trolleycars in their lives --- be they J.Q.Public or J.Q.Railfan.
So Enjoy Trolleycars while they are here --- they won't last forever ---
trolleycars nor museums. I would then vote with Greg and *wish* to see a WP--700
operational. My grandmother told me stories about living in Connellsville and these big
cars and I would like to experience just a smidgen of what she related. Realistically,
it does take money and effort to do such, but it is not impossible. I hope it happens
while recognizing the odds are against it.
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James B. Holland
Holland Electric Railway Operation
"O"--Scale St.-Petersburg Trams Company Trolleycars &
"O"--Scale Parts mailto:pghpcc at pacbell.net
Pennsylvania Trolley Museum (PTM) http://www.pa-trolley.org/
Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), 1930 -- 1950
N.M.R.A. Life member #2190; http://www.nmra.org
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