[PRCo] Re: To PCC or Not to PCC?.......That is the Question.

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Wed Nov 21 04:43:15 EST 2001


Good Morning!!

	To take this a little further.   Mainline RRs can have interurban service   ---   the
Pennsy running strictly between Pgh and Johnstown might be considered such.   Or Pgh. and
Cleveland.

	But it might be stretching it a bit to say Pgh. to Philly on a RR--train is interurban
and certainly Pgh. to Chicago is stretching the point and Pgh to LA is Trans--Continental,
definitely out of interurban class (although possibly still applicable.)

	But then again, people in the 1920s boasted about being able to take the  *Trolleycar* 
from Pgh to places in Wisconsin, changing frequently to get there, but it is still by
traditional interurban as we know them!!

	.......And an interurban--trolleycar line started construction to connect NY and
Chicago!!

	It is difficult (so it seems) to draw a line   ---   and when that line is drawn, it is
often in Sand!!(:->)

> Jim Holland wrote:

>         It seems that  *at least 2-factors*  affect definitions::  1)--We live in an imperfect
> world and  2)--Definitions seem circular.
>         *WE*  associate The term  *Interurban*  with  PE,  North Shore,  CA&E,  OE,  C&LE,
> BCER,  etc., etc., etc.   But the term is equally applicable to motor coaches, even
> railroads.   It is transit between two cities and in the case of rail equipment like PE,
> it is mostly on prw!
>         The term  *streetcar*  is defined as a vehicle that provides transit in a city while
> operating in the streets.   This can include a  horse--car,  cable--car,  trolleycar,
> battery--car,  etc., etc., etc.
>         Now, then, to be perfectly specific about the type of interurban of which one speaks, do
> we say  *Interurban--trolleycar??*   Seems like a misnomer since trolleycars run mostly on
> streets and interurbans mostly on prw.
>         And an acceptable definition of  *Light--Rail*  centers on infrastructure (not
> weight--tonnage) and states that light rail contains mostly prw (grade separation) but
> possibly  *some*  street running.
>         So it seems that some terms can  cross--pollinate  other terms.
>         Takes yer choice   ---   don't know who said that!

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