[PRCo] Re: 1700s vs. 1600s

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Mon Mar 3 16:28:16 EST 2003


Good Morning!

> Fred Schneider wrote:

> Interesting ...

> what was wrong with the 1600s?

> I know from an operator's view point, a 1700 is a nice car to run
> (if you don't mind being in an inferno).    Was it justy simply an
> air car?    Was in the fact that there is always a delay between
> dynamics fading and air coming on?

	Herb had said Here before that Operators liked the 16s better esp.
for the 49-line or its modern day equivalent number because the air
cars stopped better on the hills.

	The 16s were very similar to the 17s electrically and had
extended-range dynamic braking so fade out point was theoretically
0.75-mph which leaves little for the drum brakes to do.

	*As--A--Passenger*  the 16 interurbans seemed more difficult to stop,
but the 16-city cars were ok.

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