[PRCo] Re: Fineview___PCCs

[Fred Schneider]

The 1600s did not have spring applied drums ... they had air brakes.  It was my
understanding (correct or incorrect) that the cars used on Fineview were set up
for higher brake pressure.  Extended dynamic braking would not have been
significant because the cars would stop automatically ... they faced forward
uphill.  The problem was holding the cars on a hill.  I can assure you that
all-electrics would not hold on Henderson Street without also using track brake
shoes.

Boris Cefer wrote:

> I know about 1689, 1690, 1695 and 1697. What else?
>
> But my opinion is that it had nothing to do with dynamics. The problem was
> in drums which were not sufficient to hold the car on a steep grade or make
> a rapid stop.
>
> Boris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:37 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fineview___PCCs
>
> >
> > Correct Jim.  Not gospal - just something once heard - or read.  And the
> > recollection is that it wasn't the entire 1680s.  Had to do something with
> > extended braking - which sounds like something for Fred the third to clear
> > up.
> >
> > Wish I'd paid more attention back then.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > >From: Jim Holland <PghPCC at pacbell.net>
> > >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >Subject: [PRCo] Fineview___PCCs
> > >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:06:06 -0800
> > >
> > >Good Morning!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Fred Schneider wrote:
> > >
> > > > Was 1699 one of those cars altered to run on 21 FINEVIEW?
> > >
> > >Fred  --  wouldn't your car-cards give us this info?
> > >
> > >
> > > I was told it was the 1680s modified for Fineview.
> > >
> > > This is  *White--Flagged*  information which means
> > >it is the best information so far but unconfirmed.
> > >
> > > John Swindler told me this in the 1960s.     John
> > >never said this was Gospel  --  it was just what he had
> > >heard and thus shared with me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >
> > ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> > >
> >
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