[PRCo] Re: PCC2 septa

[James B. Holland]

Fred Schneider wrote:

> If you want to pick nits, the Transit Research Corporation defended 
> vigorously their truck patents. These cars do not have PCC trucks. 
> Therefore some might say that they are not even PCC cars but simply 
> look alikes. As much PCC as the alleged Birneys in Little Rock, 
> Memphis and Tampa are Birneys (without any of the normal safety 
> appliances).
>
> FWS



Just For The Purpose Of Discussion.......

A person on another list adamantly defends the position that the  
*-New-*  New Orleans cars and the Philly PCC2s  *-Are-*  PCCs  --  then 
went into a discourse that these vehicles are in the evolutionary line 
of the PCC and actually mentioned lrvs in the same sentence.       One 
could then retort that the so-called lrvs are Also In The Evolutionary 
Line Of The PCC  --  so why aren't  lrvs  called PCCs?

After all, as you and Carlson make clear with the 2-page chart in PCC 
Car That Fought Back  (pgs.56-57)  the PCC is in the evolutionary line 
of the standard old Trolleycars, and one used for comparison was the NO 
900s!!!!!!!

There Is A Point,  HowSomeEver,  where A Line Is Crossed and a vehicle 
is no longer a PCC    ----    just as the PCC was no longer the standard 
old car    ----    this may have happened with the septa PCC2s  --  
((and the NO NewBuilds with PCC-Like trucks but New Orleans Perly Thomas 
Look-Alike bodies.))       AC instead of DC motors; *-new-*  truck 
design;  solid state controls.       Body  IS  refurbished from true PCC.

ALL  Are  TrolleyCars!



Jim__Holland


I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!

down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!