[PRCo] Re: Interurban Accidents

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Mon Sep 26 11:15:43 EDT 2005


I have a picture of one of the 1600s on the Donora spur at Black  
Diamond on that trip but the "Doubting Thomases" keep telling me that  
it had to be backed it there because there was no way to turn it.    
It is one of those stories that is so doubted by now that no one is  
going to believe it until someone produces the picture at the Donora  
wye.  Assuming it was a fantrip, why isn't there such a picture?

Swindler:  Woiuld John Baxter know for sure???????

fws

On Sep 26, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:

> Yes, it apparently happened, probably in July 1952.  The Akron RR  
> Club took
> two chartered 1600s down the Charleroi line.  But photos?  I don't  
> know.
> I'll have to look through the Bill Gwinn negatives when I have  
> time, and
> unfortunately, this week isn't a good one for me!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:45 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Cc: mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Interurban Accidents
>
>
>    Gentlemen ( Fred, Ed, Jim and others)
>
>     All of the infiormation shared on fares, accidents have been  
> tremendous
> and added to my
>     files of PRCo History.   Now I am bringing a subject on PCCs in  
> Donora,
> I remember very
>     clearly a PCC in Donora near the end of operation and one that  
> used the
> wye to turn around, this
>     had to be a special     fan trip.   I know it is true, cause I  
> was there
> when it happened and I ought to
>     know!   The     picture of this after 50 plus years is staill  
> clear in
> this 64 year old mind!    The reason
>     for     posting this is to see if anyone else remembers or even  
> has a
> picture?
>
>     Jerry
>
>>
>> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams at adelphia.net>
>> Date: 2005/09/26 Mon AM 10:17:59 EDT
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Interurban Accidents
>>
>> There were a couple notable accidents on PRCo's interurban  
>> routes.  Two
>> 3600s collided just OB of South Hills Jct. before that section was
>> double-tracked (no the improvement had nothing to do with the
>>
> accident...it
>
>> involved a replacement for the Warrington Avenue bridge with its
>> center-of-the-road-pier), and a pair of 3700s hit head-on in the  
>> fog in
>> early 1943, resulting in the death of one of the motormen.  There  
>> may have
>> been one more cornfield meet involving 3700s (the roster is not  
>> here), but
>> by and large, the operation was pretty reliable.  Few injuries and  
>> fewer
>> deaths occurred.
>>
>> The same holds true for West Penn.  They had a couple unscheduled  
>> meets in
>> the early years, but ran a pretty safe railroad.  Occasionally  
>> they would
>> run over a drunk sleeping on the tracks or hit a herd of cows, but  
>> killed
>> very few people.  My favorite incident involved a group of people who
>> chartered a car to go to a political rally.  They managed, in their
>> enthusiasm, to set off some of the fireworks a bit early, thereby  
>> causing
>>
> a
>
>> fire that destroyed the car (and probably their finances after the
>>
> lawsuit)
>
>> and no doubt made them late for the function, as well.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
>> mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
>> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:56 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Interurban Accidents
>>
>>
>> Gentlemen
>>
>> i enjoyed all the comments to my question concerning fares on  
>> interurbans
>> and basically in the
>> Pittsburgh area.
>>
>> My question now is, on the two interurban routes, Charleroi and  
>> Washington
>> in the history of operation of these two routes were there any major
>> accidents??
>>
>> While we are at it, on the scenice  bridge oriented West Penn  
>> where there
>> any major accidents.
>>
>> I enjoy all the comments from everyone and look forward to these!
>>
>> Jerry Matsick
>> Jax, Fl
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