[PRCo] Re: Pgh__--__San--Fran__Connection

[Holland Electric Rwy. Op. H.E.R.O. -- Import SPTC 1.48 Models // James B. Holland]

Fred Schneider wrote:
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>One might be lead to suggest that the satisfaction in Pittsburgh and dissatisfaction in San Francisco were subjective in both cases.     The answer might lie somewhere between the two following statements:   
>He designed it here, therefore it is good.   They designed it, therefore it is not good.
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That would be a  'Possible'  explanation but personally  (at this point 
in time and without further info)  feel it is not  'Probable'    ----    
United RR connection with both properties would tend to make for a 
favorable application.       Attitudes then were to get something as 
cheaply as possible and  Ready  To  Run and this would fit that 
bill.       Seems the topography // system features of more open running 
in Pgh. with more gentle hills and extremely closely spaced stops and 
very steep grades in SF are what limited or negated success here.


>James B. Holland wrote:
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>>Through the Untied Railroads  (Ed, John, Bill, Don may be able to give us more historical information)  there was a connection between these two cities.       This was borne out in home built  #0301  aka  #0401 of the Market Street Railway, predecessor of the Muni, in that it is a Low-Floor design of 1915 that used the same trucks as PRCo Low-Floor cars.       Text from White Front Cars of San Francisco indicates that GE  motors were used  --  PRCo contracted with Westinghouse for the small motors.       #0301 was not successful in San Francisco and I think the difference is that SF has Grades and is Very Short Haul with Very Closely spaced stops while PRCo has Hills and some grades but less frequent and less closely spaced stops.       Text indicates that the cars were very successful in Pgh.
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>>Five  URLs  below showing photos and text.       You may need to adjust the size of the scan to make the text legible  --  experimented with this before sending and it is quite satisfactory.
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>>Jim__Holland
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>>-- URL : http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/0301%2008%201of5%2019150104.jpg
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