[PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question
Fred Schneider
fwschneider at comcast.net
Sat Jul 12 17:47:32 EDT 2008
My bet Jerry, was that while you were looking at the trolley, your
mom stepped back a few inches.
On Jul 12, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:
> Mr. Matsick;
>
> Body language of intending passengers says alot, doesn't it. We
> can miss such when we as railfans are watching the Interurban.
> This is still used by transit today. A driver doesn't reject a
> passenger just because he doesn't know that individual as a regular
> as there are always new passengers aren't there. The body language
> of a new passenger helps in this regard and if unsure the
> professional driver will stop just to make sure. I don't remember
> any express service that far south and certainly not on Sunday.
> There could always be a Sunday Only stop for Donora locals and not
> for the Interurban but your info here refutes that. Too many
> variables isn't there for us to make a valid determination today.
> Best 'guess' is that body language usually tells the Interurban
> motorman to continue but there was uncertainty at times so the same
> car stopped.
>
>
> Phil
>
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>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Jerry MATT Matsick <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:43:25 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question
>>
>> John
>> It wasn't Art waiting for the car, it was my family and another
>> family both from
>> Donora, and I don't think
>> the Charleroi Car driver knew where we were from? We were
>> passed by several
>> times and at other
>> times the Charleroi car stopped?
>> Jerry Matsick
>> --
>> From the RIVER CITY by the Sea!
>> Jerry "Matt" Matsick
>> J A C K S O N V I L L E, Florida !
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message from John Swindler :
>> --------------
>>
>>
>>> Hi Art
>>>
>>> Were you the only ones waiting for the car??
>>> Drivers/motormen tend to know their customers when service is
>>> infrequent and
>> they have picked a particular run. They knew your mother and they
>> knew where she
>> was going on a Sunday morning. You were watching the trolley - you
>> were not
>> watching to see if your mother signaled the motorman she did not
>> want the
>>> Charleroi car.
>>> That's one of the problems I have when visiting small systems -
>>> getting the
>> driver to stop at the bus stop. He knows his customers, and I'm
>> not one of them.
>> That's why, when I set up the appointment, I tell the manager that
>> it's
>>> ok to let his driver's know that a stranger will ride a couple of
>>> the trips.
>>>
>>> John
>>>> From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>> Subject:
>> [PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008
>> 17:38:13 -0400> >
>> Perhaps Tom Phillips could shed some light on this. > > -----Original
>> Message-----> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org>
>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Fred>
>>> Schneider> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:24 PM> To:
>>> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Next Car
>>> Light Question>
>>>
>>> Have no idea. Perhaps he knew your mother was a Donora passenger?
>>> > Perhaps at
>>
>>> certain hours the Donora cars did the local work in >
>>> Monongahela? (Remember
>>> that the Castle Shannon cars did all the > local work in the rush
>>> hours
>> between
>>> Pittsburgh and Frederick > Street). I never saw anything in the
>>> timetable
>> about
>>> Donora cars > running local and it does not make sense because
>>> there could
>> have
>>> been> people who would have wanted to get on and go to Charleroi
>>> so my thought
>>
>>> is> that the motor!
>>> man recognized the people. I've given you > the speculative
>>> answer. The honest
>>
>>> answer is Fred doesn't know.> > > On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:09 PM,
>>> Jerry MATT
>>> Matsick wrote:> > > Fred -> > When I was just a youngster in the
>>> 1940s we
>> would
>>> ride a Donora car to > > Monongahela and attend a church there,
>>> upon return we
>>
>>> would stand > > across the street from the FBC in Monongahela
>>> and> > The
>>> Charleroi car would come by and not stop? We would wait and > >
>>> get on the
>>> Donora car? Why would> > the Charleroi car not stop?> > --> >
>>> From the RIVER
>>> CITY by the Sea!> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick> > J A C K S O N V I L L
>>> E, Florida
>> !>
>>>>>>>>
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