[PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question

Jerry MATT Matsick mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
Sat Jul 12 19:14:38 EDT 2008


Fred you are probably correct, I was ready to get on any street car, street sweeper lowfloor or 3800 or
PCC - I was ready to ride, especially after they started running PCCs on the Charleroi Interurban,
those fascinated me to know end, but there  was something about the lighting in the 3800  cars that was
super kool looking!  OH well we will never know those days again.  
Jerry Matsick.   


-------------- Original message from Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>: -------------- 


> My bet Jerry, was that while you were looking at the trolley, your 
> mom stepped back a few inches. 
> 
> On Jul 12, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote: 
> 
> > Mr. Matsick; 
> > 
> > Body language of intending passengers says alot, doesn't it. We 
> > can miss such when we as railfans are watching the Interurban. 
> > This is still used by transit today. A driver doesn't reject a 
> > passenger just because he doesn't know that individual as a regular 
> > as there are always new passengers aren't there. The body language 
> > of a new passenger helps in this regard and if unsure the 
> > professional driver will stop just to make sure. I don't remember 
> > any express service that far south and certainly not on Sunday. 
> > There could always be a Sunday Only stop for Donora locals and not 
> > for the Interurban but your info here refutes that. Too many 
> > variables isn't there for us to make a valid determination today. 
> > Best 'guess' is that body language usually tells the Interurban 
> > motorman to continue but there was uncertainty at times so the same 
> > car stopped. 
> > 
> > 
> > Phil 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ---- 
> >> From: Jerry MATT Matsick 
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:43:25 AM 
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question 
> >> 
> >> John 
> >> It wasn't Art waiting for the car, it was my family and another 
> >> family both from 
> >> Donora, and I don't think 
> >> the Charleroi Car driver knew where we were from? We were 
> >> passed by several 
> >> times and at other 
> >> times the Charleroi car stopped? 
> >> Jerry Matsick 
> >> -- 
> >> From the RIVER CITY by the Sea! 
> >> Jerry "Matt" Matsick 
> >> J A C K S O N V I L L E, Florida ! 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -------------- Original message from John Swindler : 
> >> -------------- 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Hi Art 
> >>> 
> >>> Were you the only ones waiting for the car?? 
> >>> Drivers/motormen tend to know their customers when service is 
> >>> infrequent and 
> >> they have picked a particular run. They knew your mother and they 
> >> knew where she 
> >> was going on a Sunday morning. You were watching the trolley - you 
> >> were not 
> >> watching to see if your mother signaled the motorman she did not 
> >> want the 
> >>> Charleroi car. 
> >>> That's one of the problems I have when visiting small systems - 
> >>> getting the 
> >> driver to stop at the bus stop. He knows his customers, and I'm 
> >> not one of them. 
> >> That's why, when I set up the appointment, I tell the manager that 
> >> it's 
> >>> ok to let his driver's know that a stranger will ride a couple of 
> >>> the trips. 
> >>> 
> >>> John 
> >>>> From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> 
> >>>> Subject: 
> >> [PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 
> >> 17:38:13 -0400> > 
> >> Perhaps Tom Phillips could shed some light on this. > > -----Original 
> >> Message-----> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org> 
> >>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf 
> >>> Of Fred> 
> >>> Schneider> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:24 PM> To: 
> >>> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Next Car 
> >>> Light Question> 
> >>> 
> >>> Have no idea. Perhaps he knew your mother was a Donora passenger? 
> >>> > Perhaps at 
> >> 
> >>> certain hours the Donora cars did the local work in > 
> >>> Monongahela? (Remember 
> >>> that the Castle Shannon cars did all the > local work in the rush 
> >>> hours 
> >> between 
> >>> Pittsburgh and Frederick > Street). I never saw anything in the 
> >>> timetable 
> >> about 
> >>> Donora cars > running local and it does not make sense because 
> >>> there could 
> >> have 
> >>> been> people who would have wanted to get on and go to Charleroi 
> >>> so my thought 
> >> 
> >>> is> that the motor! 
> >>> man recognized the people. I've given you > the speculative 
> >>> answer. The honest 
> >> 
> >>> answer is Fred doesn't know.> > > On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:09 PM, 
> >>> Jerry MATT 
> >>> Matsick wrote:> > > Fred -> > When I was just a youngster in the 
> >>> 1940s we 
> >> would 
> >>> ride a Donora car to > > Monongahela and attend a church there, 
> >>> upon return we 
> >> 
> >>> would stand > > across the street from the FBC in Monongahela 
> >>> and> > The 
> >>> Charleroi car would come by and not stop? We would wait and > > 
> >>> get on the 
> >>> Donora car? Why would> > the Charleroi car not stop?> > --> > 
> >>> From the RIVER 
> >>> CITY by the Sea!> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick> > J A C K S O N V I L L 
> >>> E, Florida 
> >> !> 
> >>>>>>>> 
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