[PRCo] Re: Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914

[John Swindler]

As I said, Fred, it's available on line at digital Pittsburgh site.  The pertinent information is available at your finger tips.  (:>)
 
The one I'm looking for is my grandmother's city directory from 1930s.  She was a public health nurse who traveled about the city.  The car lines are also at the back, but haven't seen it in many years.  Eventually it will surface.
 
John
 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:07:08 -0400> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > I had a copy of Lewis's 1923 guide that I inherited from Grandma but > it is one of those things that vanished when the princess threw me > out. Do you have a copy of the pertinent information?> > On Jun 8, 2008, at 2:30 PM, John Swindler wrote:> > >> > Ed's scan on route numbers is only part of the picture. Then go to > > Lewis' 1923 city guide to add to the picture. Then go to page 39 > > (if memory serves) of 1917 Pittsburgh transit survey for more of > > the picture. Both available on internet.> >> > Then to add some color to picture, go to newspaper microfilm > > collections, PTM archives, and PUC/PSC documents. Picture still > > won't be complete, but most of the 'canvas' will be filled in.> >> > John> >> >> >> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:18:42 -0700> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com> > >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914> > >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > ----- Original Message ---- > >> > > From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>> > To: > >> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 > >> 7:36:14 PM> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Destination Numbers Effective > >> March 1, 1914> > > > Phil:> > > > 43 Neeld short turned at Neeld > >> Avenue on the 42 Dormont (and later > > 42/38 line). That loop was > >> used into the PAT era. The loop was > > still there in the 1970s.> > >> > Maybe I didn't make this plain did I. The listing in the scans > >> provided by Mr.Lybarger are thus:> > 42-Beechview> 43-Neeld> > > >> Both seem to be identical at least in name don't they. I would > >> thus 'assume' (you don't like that word do you) that 42-Beechview > >> went to the wye.> >> >> > The need for an 89 Frankstown 22nd > >> Street line? I guess we have to > > define what a city is but you > >> will again tell me I am!> > patronizing > > you. Look at the note I posted yesterday in which > > I suggested that > > there were probably 50,000 jobs in seven > > companies between Homestead > > and Wilmerding. Well, there were > > also a whole flock of jobs in the > > strip district that required > > tripper cars in bound at certain hours > > on 94, 95, 96, 86, 88. > > Think of Crane Plumbing at 25th St., > > Armstrong Cork Company at > > 24th St., the Pennsylvania Railroad engine > > house at 28th St. > > Before moving to Wilmerding, Westinghouse Air Brake > > was in the > > Strip District. There were a lot of food warehouses there > > and > > still are. Remember that there was also an incline that hauled > > > > people from Bedford (Herron Hill) down to 17th Street to go to work > > > > down there.> > > I asked about the needs and this seems to > > cover it, thank you. Also adds dimension to the two clockwise/ > > counter-clockwise routes that ran through here as well. This was a > > much busier place at one time wasn't it.> > > > > Last month Linn Moe!> > dinger wrote in Trains magazine that the Strasburg > > Rail Road > > has m> > oved beyond the nostalgia era and is now in the > > entertainment > > and education business. So are all the trolley > > museums that > > want to stay in business. We don't have people > > bringing their > > kids or grandchildren any longer to show them what it > > used to > > be like. They're gone. Now we have to explain to them > > what > > cities were like. What it was like to shop every day for > > > > perishables because you had an icebox instead of a freezer. What it > > > > was like to go to a movie every week for entrainment because > > you had > > no television and no radio. And what it was like to > > live in a row > > house and ride the trolley to the stores, to > > work, to church, to the > > theater and to the cemetery to put > > flowers on the graves on Sunday. > > People just don't know. There > > is no memory any longer.> > > > In the last 20 years I've watched > > the memory disappear!> > > > On Jun 7, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Phillip > > Clark Campbell wrote:> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > >> > > From: Edward H. L!> > ybarger > > >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > >> Sent: > > Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:35:31 AM> > >> Subject: [PRCo] Destination > > Numbers Effective March 1, 1914> > >>> > >> Attached are two files > > that together contain the entire > > >> advertisement that> > >> > > appeared in the Pittsburgh Post on April 7, 1914 on behalf of > > > > >> Pittsburgh> > >> Railways Company. It outlines the new > > destination numbers that > > >> went into> > >> effect April 1, > > 1914.> > >>> > >> I think it's apparent that not all routes > > reveived destination > > >> numbers at> > >> this time...probably > > had to do with traffic volumes, or perhaps > > >> with hours> > >> > > of operations. Someone needs to read the news reports from the > > > > >> first of> > >> April.> > >>> > >> Or perhaps this was all a big > > April Fool's joke?> > >>> > >> Ed> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > http:// > > lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/Destination% > > > > > 20Numbers%20Ad%203-7-14%20Top.jpg> > >>> > >>> > > http:// > > lists.dementia.org/file!> > s/pittsburgh-railways/Destination% > > > 20Numbers%20Ad%203-7-14% > > 20Bot> > tom.jpg> > >> > > These are interesting Mr.Lybarger.> > >> > > > > Where would 17-High Bridge be on the North Side? One tends to > > > > > associate high bridges with the East End.> > >> > > Assume the 21- > > Nunnery Hill is latter day Fineview. Why the > > > distinction of > > Allegheny only?> > >> > > Do you know why Fair Haven was so noted > > on the Interurbans? Why > > > would this location be important - > > then? It has lost its > > > distinction today hasn't it.> > >> > > > > It would also seem that 42-Beechview and 43-Neeld would be the > > > > > same; what's the difference?> > >> > > What would be the > > significance of the 45-Knoxville 3rd Ave? Short > > > Turn? > > Downtown routings for various lines obviously changed a > > > > > number of times and maybe the 44 didn't go to the Union or PRR > > > > > station at this time. I did see something somewhere that the 50- > > > > > Carson was at one time routed to PRR didn't I.> > >> > > 49- > > Beltzhoover is clearly indicated yet PCCs carried 46-Brownsville > > > > > for quite!> > some time and the 46 here is different isn't it.> > >> > > The 72 > > and 92 seemed to be 'paired' as do the the 79 and 91 - very > > > > > interesting - also shows bidirectional traffic along Penn.> > >> > > > > Also interesting are the 89-Frankstown/22nd-St and 95-Sharpsburg/ > > > > > 22nd-St - curious about the needs for this service.> > >> > > > > Phil> > > > > >> > _________________________________________________________________> > It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites > > through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how.> > https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow> >> > > 
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