[PRCo] Re: Funeral cars

[Richard Allman]

plus the fare for the "guest of honor", aka the deceased!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:57 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars


> Just thinking out loud two zones to Glenside ... 10 cents up, 10  
> cents back   ... 20 cents per rider ... probably a guaranteed minimum  
> of 40 fares $8.00  plus a fee to haul the casket ... maybe $10 a trip.
> 
> I chartered a Pittsburgh car in 1958 for eight hours for $94.80.    
> Now if we consider that costs in the industry declined from 1900 to  
> 1950 because cars were lengthened and crews were made smaller, then  
> may $15 would be reasonable back in 1912.
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> On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
> 
>> Fred et. al.-sounds like Bill has the answer-thanks! Wonder what  
>> the fee
>> was? If there were 100 funerals annually(more than one per day a  
>> logistical
>> nightmare, given distances and slowness of PRT) $25 per? just  
>> guessing.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:56 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>
>>
>>> Cox says the car was built at the suggestion of the Hillside  
>>> Cemetery who
>>> guaranteed a minimum $2500 annual return to PRT for seven years.  
>>> The car
>>> was built on Brill order 18358, booked on 23 May 1912 and cost  
>>> $4300. The
>>> car was made to resemble as closely as possible a Near Side car.  
>>> Hillside
>>> Cemetery had priority on the use of the car and provided about 75%  
>>> of the
>>> revenues, but other cemeteries were allowed to use the car when it  
>>> was not
>>> otherwise scheduled. It was dismantled in 1932.
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> not sure! Question for Dick Vible who is wise in all such matters- 
>>> will ask
>>> him @ East Penn this Friday.
>>> The car had a door for the casket and was furnished differently  
>>> than the
>>> usual Nearside decor. I seem to recall old PRT track maps showing the
>>> Hillside Cemetery siding.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:47 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>
>>>
>>>> So Rich, did PRT have 1500 Nearsides with 1 converted to the
>>>> Hillside .... or 1501 with the Hillside built as a separate order?
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> actually, Ed Torpey's was called Fernwood-the PRT car was the
>>>>> Hillside. I
>>>>> did some research a few years ago and it turns out that my
>>>>> great-grandmother, Jane Bunting had her last ride on the Hillside
>>>>> in 1919,
>>>>> from a funeral home in Kensington section of the city, over
>>>>> whatever routes
>>>>> to Old York Road, and then out Route 6 to Hillside Cemetery in
>>>>> Glenside. PRT
>>>>> had a siding at the cemetery. My mother had told me of the trip the
>>>>> family
>>>>> made on that January, 1919 day. The car was a Nearside.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "BobDietrich" <bob.dietrich1 at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm surprised that no one mentioned the Philly Funeral car - or
>>>>>> did I miss
>>>>>> it.  It was called Fernwood.  I only know this because in 1973 Ed
>>>>>> Torpey
>>>>>> won
>>>>>> an East Penn contest with his model of the car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf
>>>>>> Of Ken
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Tracie
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:40 PM
>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I looked up the following information:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chicago's funeral car was simply "Number One." Also read that St.
>>>>>> Louis
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Buffalo had funeral cars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have seen photos of  Duluth, Minnesota's trolley "fire engine."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> K.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:51 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PRC did not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On  
>>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Phillip
>>>>>>> Clark Campbell
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:05 PM
>>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Funeral cars
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did PRC have any funeral cars?  Assume not; seems to be  'more'
>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>> Western-US phenomenon doesn't it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil
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