[PRCo] Re: Photo Trivia

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Wed Nov 10 01:46:45 EST 2010 

Fred

Not necessarily true.  Look at the imposition of maximum speed limits, the horribly wrong 21 year old drinking rule, and the .08 BAC rule.  States that do not comply do not get $ from the Feds, period.

In East Palestine, Ohio, in the late 40s and maybe into some time in the 50s there was a traffic signal (perhaps the only one East Palestine had at the time) with the clock face indicator.  I always thought that was a really neat thing.  Must have been a maintenance nightmare in those days of mechanical everything.

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fred Schneider 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, 09 November, 2010 19:49
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo Trivia


  Unfortunately, Herb, we don't have federal rules for traffic.   We only have implied guide lines that we need to follow if we don't want to lose federal support for our highways.   Of course if we have a very strong senator or congressman in Washington, what we really do doesn't matter, we'll still get the money.   

  Pittsburgh had to get rid of its usual traffic lights.   New York City axed its lights that went directly from green to red.   Some of you may remember those lights in Marietta, Ohio that flashed red three times over green and then went to solid red ... again, they went to the national standard.   Reading PA used to have lights with an indicator that progressed up a clock to tell you how many seconds were left until it went red.   The West Chester Pike coming out of Philly used to have nothing but green arrows for forward, left or right  .... I guess the people with substandard vision complained.

  But we still have places like Houston where the signals are mounted horizontally to confuse the color blind and where the left turn signals are simply solid red instead of red arrows ..... and they they complain that people make left turns in front of light rail trains.   I wonder why?????????


  On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:

  > I have to come up with more mysterious photos. Ed and Fred are too good.
  > In Photo 1, the other trivial thing is that there is a set of twins walking
  > down the sidewalk, toward the camera. How many times do a set of twins get
  > into a random photo shot?
  > 
  > In Photo 2, I did not see the hose jumpers. It looked like the fire engine
  > was drawing water ala San Francisco via an in-street cistern. But now the
  > hose jumpers come into play. The windshield is probably a damaged spot. It
  > almost looks like an object was thrown at the windshield. But then, this
  > photo is the 1930s, not the 1960s.
  > 
  > In Photo 3, the thing I though someone might miss is that the  traffic
  > signal facing the crosswalk at Ft Pitt Blvd is lit with the Amber Over
  > Green. A truly Pittsburgh thing...........taken away by our "friends" in the
  > US Department of Transportation. You also noted the placement of the street,
  > which changed after the parkway was built through this area.
  > 
  > In Photo 4, it is my opinion, as a former PCC operator, that the taxi is
  > about to have the left rear quarter panel ironed out by the trolley. The
  > location of the track in proximity to the location of the taxi would not
  > allow for passage of any trolleys. If the operator were eyeing the
  > clearance, from this air-electric car, he should be turned more toward the
  > taxi and slightly out of his seat. Hopefully, he has already noticed this
  > and is sitting stopped waiting for the taxi driver or a route foreman.
  > 
  > I will try to find more complicated photos next time.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 17:53, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net> wrote:
  > 
  >> 1)  It's Market Square.  There's a steam leak...a lot of the Downtown was
  >> serviced by Allegheny County Steam Heating Co., who seems to losing a bit
  >> of
  >> its product here.
  >> 
  >> 2)  The fire hose goes back and under the hose jumpers.  I think the
  >> "thing"
  >> on the windshield is post-printing damage rather than a thrown object.
  >> 
  >> 3)  Lots of things...the B&O Station itself, streetcars on the bridge,
  >> green/yellow traffic light cycle, conventional street lights.  Probably
  >> more.
  >> 
  >> 4)  The cab may lose a fender, and the Capp Express trailer may receive a
  >> divot.
  >> 
  >> Ed
  >> 
  >> -----Original Message-----
  >> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
  >> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Herb
  >> Brannon
  >> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 5:35 PM
  >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >> Subject: [PRCo] Photo Trivia
  >> 
  >> Two things are possible with each of the attached four photos. Either I
  >> need
  >> information concerning the photo or there is something of interest (trivial
  >> interest, which we know is interesting) in these photos. I will give my
  >> questions about each photo and maybe someone can give an answer.
  >> Photo 1--Is this Market Square or Penn Station? I'm guessing Market Square.
  >> Anyone know for sure? There is another interesting/trivial thing in the
  >> photo.
  >> 
  >> Photo 2--A fire at the Granada Theater in the Hill District in the 1930s.
  >> Two things are "different" in the photo. Where is the fire hose going after
  >> it comes out of the fire engine? What, if anything, just struck the window
  >> of the automobile in the foreground?
  >> 
  >> Photo 3--This is the former configuration of the intersection at the
  >> city-end of the Smithfield Street Bridge. What thing(s) in the photo will
  >> we
  >> never see in reality any longer?
  >> 
  >> Photo 4--The trolley is turning from Penn onto Sixth. The operator is
  >> looking straight ahead. What is about to happen?
  >> 
  >> Let me know what you find.
  >> The last photo is just the colorized version of a famous, well viewed photo
  >> of the first PCCs for PRCo. We may or may not have seen this photo on The
  >> List before.
  >> --
  >> Herb Brannon
  >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
  >> 
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  > Herb Brannon
  > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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