[PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question

[Dwight Long]

Fred

An air vent made out of tube extending across the roof supported by a center post?

I think we are talking about two different appurtenances.

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fred Schneider 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Friday, 19 November, 2010 12:16
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question


  Try an air-vent.   It remained behind the back-up pole that Muni added.   


  On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:

  > The PRCo original "radio phone" did not use radio waves to transmit the
  > audio directly to the car. It was a telephone based device using the trolley
  > wire to transmit. Hence the name "radio phone". That is the basic definition
  > of the PRCo system from former PRCo/PATransit Training Instructor Angelo
  > Nazzo. He always referred to it as the "trolley phone". Angelo would always
  > tell us how superior the PATransit standard radio system was in comparison
  > to the "trolley phone". The main complaint with the trolley phone was that
  > the voice clarity was very poor. PATransit kept insisting, for years after
  > radios had been installed in buses, that it would not be prudent to install
  > them in streetcars do to the poor quality experienced in the original
  > installation. PAT was forgetting that there was a vast difference between
  > the original PRCo radio installation of 1949 and the radio system in use at
  > PATransit in 1971. By 1977 all streetcars, with the exception of a handful
  > of non-rehabilitated 1600s, had radios installed.
  > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 21:24, Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
  > 
  >> Mr.Brannon;
  >> It has the appearance of an 'antenna' doesn't it.  Prc used radio
  >> phones on some of the interurbans but don't remember an antenna.
  >> Seems the radio signal was overlaid on existing wiring.
  >> The item you describe appears to be about 6' long and generally
  >> assumes the curvature of the roof.  Much smaller similar devices
  >> were used for antennas on cars decades later;  didn't Pat have
  >> a U-shaped antenna mounted near the roof light?
  >> 
  >> 
  >> Phil
  >> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> ________________________________
  >> From: Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
  >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 8:58:50 PM
  >> Subject: [PRCo] SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >> 
  >> For those who have a copy of PCC-From Coast to Coast handy. Take a look at
  >> the section on St Louis Public Service Co.and the 1600s and 1700s in
  >> particular. The SLPS 1600-series and 1700-series PCCs have a small device
  >> mounted on the roof just back from the top of the destination sign. It
  >> appears to have a bracket in the center and is made from a tube shaped
  >> piece
  >> of metal, attached to the bracket and extending to both the right and left
  >> sides of the car roof. I can find no mention of this device in any of my
  >> books. When SLPS sold their cars to Shaker Heights Rapid Transit,
  >> Philadelphia Transportation Co and the San Francisco Municipal Railway the
  >> device was missing when the cars arrived in their new homes. Does anyone
  >> know the purpose of this device?
  >> --
  >> Herb Brannon
  >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  > 
  > 
  > -- 
  > Herb Brannon
  > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
  > 
  > 
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