[PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question

[Herb Brannon]

Dwight,
I sent a copy of the SLPS #1700 model directly to you. Let me know if it
came through.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:50, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net> wrote:

> Fred
>
> An air vent made out of tube extending across the roof supported by a
> center post?
>
> I think we are talking about two different appurtenances.
>
> Dwight
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Fred Schneider
>  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>   Sent: Friday, 19 November, 2010 12:16
>  Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>
>
>  Try an air-vent.   It remained behind the back-up pole that Muni added.
>
>
>  On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:12 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:
>
>  > The PRCo original "radio phone" did not use radio waves to transmit the
>  > audio directly to the car. It was a telephone based device using the
> trolley
>  > wire to transmit. Hence the name "radio phone". That is the basic
> definition
>  > of the PRCo system from former PRCo/PATransit Training Instructor Angelo
>  > Nazzo. He always referred to it as the "trolley phone". Angelo would
> always
>  > tell us how superior the PATransit standard radio system was in
> comparison
>  > to the "trolley phone". The main complaint with the trolley phone was
> that
>  > the voice clarity was very poor. PATransit kept insisting, for years
> after
>  > radios had been installed in buses, that it would not be prudent to
> install
>  > them in streetcars do to the poor quality experienced in the original
>  > installation. PAT was forgetting that there was a vast difference
> between
>  > the original PRCo radio installation of 1949 and the radio system in use
> at
>  > PATransit in 1971. By 1977 all streetcars, with the exception of a
> handful
>  > of non-rehabilitated 1600s, had radios installed.
>  > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 21:24, Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>  >
>  >> Mr.Brannon;
>  >> It has the appearance of an 'antenna' doesn't it.  Prc used radio
>  >> phones on some of the interurbans but don't remember an antenna.
>  >> Seems the radio signal was overlaid on existing wiring.
>  >> The item you describe appears to be about 6' long and generally
>  >> assumes the curvature of the roof.  Much smaller similar devices
>  >> were used for antennas on cars decades later;  didn't Pat have
>  >> a U-shaped antenna mounted near the roof light?
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Phil
>  >> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> ________________________________
>  >> From: Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>  >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>  >> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 8:58:50 PM
>  >> Subject: [PRCo] SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>  >>
>  >> For those who have a copy of PCC-From Coast to Coast handy. Take a look
> at
>  >> the section on St Louis Public Service Co.and the 1600s and 1700s in
>  >> particular. The SLPS 1600-series and 1700-series PCCs have a small
> device
>  >> mounted on the roof just back from the top of the destination sign. It
>  >> appears to have a bracket in the center and is made from a tube shaped
>  >> piece
>  >> of metal, attached to the bracket and extending to both the right and
> left
>  >> sides of the car roof. I can find no mention of this device in any of
> my
>  >> books. When SLPS sold their cars to Shaker Heights Rapid Transit,
>  >> Philadelphia Transportation Co and the San Francisco Municipal Railway
> the
>  >> device was missing when the cars arrived in their new homes. Does
> anyone
>  >> know the purpose of this device?
>  >> --
>  >> Herb Brannon
>  >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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>  > Herb Brannon
>  > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park