[PRCo] Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Fw: Emailing: Blue Line @ Planetarium, Blue Line outbd at Midvale Center, blueline inbd Fashion Place, Blueline outbd Fashion Place, DSC_0453_edited-1, Green Line @ Temple Square SD70, inbound Red Line South Jordan Pkwy

[Richard Allman]

and I disagree w/ you, Ken-what you are describing is not exhibitionism-it 
is a divinely mediated gift-one that sadly I have never received-yet, but 
still hoping! assuming that the "displayer" w/ those dimensions is a 
female...

RICH


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 5:19 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Fw: Emailing: Blue Line @ Planetarium, 
Blue Line outbd at Midvale Center, blueline inbd Fashion Place, Blueline outbd 
Fashion Place, DSC_0453_edited-1, Green Line @ Temple Square SD70, inbound 
Red Line South Jordan Pkwy


>
> Rich
>
> I agree with ALMOST everything you say.  However, I disagree with your
> inclusion of exhibitionists--particularly if they are over 18 and about
> 36-24-36 in dimensions.
>
> Dwight
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Allman" <allmanr at verizon.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:20 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Fw: Emailing: Blue Line @ Planetarium,
> Blue Line outbd at Midvale Center, blueline inbd Fashion Place, Blueline 
> outbd
> Fashion Place, DSC_0453_edited-1, Green Line @ Temple Square SD70, inbound
> Red Line South Jordan Pkwy
>
>
>> Ken-my understanding from several photo mags is that the following are
>> restricted for photography(admittedly, probably justified):
>> 1.nuclear installations;
>> 2.military installations;
>> 3.private businesses where trade secrets might be divulged
>> AND THAT'S IT!
>> The hospital thing w/ HIPPA relates to UNCONSENTED photos of patients or
>> records, including unconsented use of non-anonymized radiologic images-if
>> a
>> patient or their surogate consents then it's legal. That is how such
>> images
>> make their way into medical texts, journals, and web sites so my
>> colleagues
>> and I can continue to learn.
>>
>> I  agree w/ totally supporting transit police in their diligence in
>> guarding
>> against muggers, purse snatchers, panhandlers, fare evaders,
>> exhibitionists,
>> vandals, grafitti artists, those who smoke, eat and drink in transit
>> space,
>> those who put their filthy feet on seats, those who play radios loudly 
>> and
>> offensively. We must not as photographers enter restricted space without
>> permission-yards, track, etc. We must not interfere w/ boarding or egress
>> of
>> passengers. We must not use flash in tunnelswhere it could dazzle and
>> blind
>> an operator. In other words, we must be polite, respectful, and show good
>> judgment. Do what our mothers taught us.
>>
>> RICH
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ken and Tracie" <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:27 PM
>> Subject: [!! SPAM] [PRCo] Re: Fw: Emailing: Blue Line @ Planetarium, Blue
>> Line outbd at Midvale Center, blueline inbd Fashion Place, Blueline outbd
>> Fashion Place, DSC_0453_edited-1, Green Line @ Temple Square SD70, 
>> inbound
>> Red Line South Jordan Pkwy
>>
>>
>>> Rich,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the heads-up. Next time I visit Salt Lake City, I can bring
>>> the
>>> Department of Homeland Security training pamphlet I received from my
>>> employer and hand it to anybody who tells me there is a ban on railroad
>>> photography. Let him/her show it to me. A few additional thoughts below.
>>>
>>> Homeland Security guidelines do indicate that people taking photos of
>>> trains, taking notes, etc. MAY fit the profile of a terrorist planner.
>>> That
>>> noted, the Department of Homeland Security has not (and probably cannot)
>>> ban
>>> the photography of railroads.
>>>
>>> A coworker told me her Union Pacific engineer boyfriend took some
>>> Homeland
>>> Security training courses at work. He is a railfan and he was not happy
>>> about being told behavior common to railfans fits the Homeland Security
>>> profile of potential terrorist plotters.
>>>
>>> My guess is the UTA employee you encountered was twisting what he was
>>> (supposedly) taught to suit whatever his motive was to harass you. The
>>> last
>>> time I rode the UTA lines with Fred the Third, some young motormen told
>>> us
>>> their trains could reach 160 mph if the gearing was changed. I have to
>>> wonder if the person you encountered was one of them, who had since been
>>> promoted to supervisor!
>>>
>>> There are, however, some publicly owned facilities receiving heavy
>>> taxpayer
>>> subsidies which can legally restrict or ban photography. For example,
>>> publicly owned hospitals can, and must, due to Federal H.I.P.P.A. 
>>> patient
>>> privacy regulations.
>>>
>>> Our airport is public owned and subsidized. But if I refuse to cooperate
>>> with the TSA people, I don't get to the gates.
>>>
>>> The MBTA has had photography restrictions on their property for decades.
>>> I
>>> do not know if the Maryland situation has or will have any bearing upon
>>> that.
>>>
>>> I remember a few years ago, some NJT police or security people were
>>> harassing railfans by telling them they could not photography NJT trains
>>> from public property, such as streets or sidewalks. I believe that
>>> situation
>>> was rectified. At least I hope it was.
>>>
>>> They need to worry more about children and young adults vandalizing the
>>> stations and equipment and not harass  rail enthusiasts photographing
>>> their
>>> trains.
>>>
>>> K.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Richard Allman" <allmanr at verizon.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:08 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Fw: Emailing: Blue Line @ Planetarium, Blue Line
>>> outbd at Midvale Center, blueline inbd Fashion Place, Blueline outbd 
>>> Fashion
>>> Place, DSC_0453_edited-1, Green Line @ Temple Square SD70, inbound Red
>>> Line
>>> South Jordan Pkwy
>>>
>>>
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: Richard Allman=20
>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org ; ptc-11 at comcast.net ; Charles 
>>>> Long
>>>> =
>>>> ; Vigrass Bill ; Russ & Mary Jackson ; WEZRail at aol.com ; =
>>>> Jack.May at americomm.net ; bob.dietrich1 at verizon.net ; Bruce Bente ; =
>>>> fwschneider at comcast.net ; Charlie - Norwood Light ; Akftrain at aol.com ; 
>>>> =
>>>> philgcraig204 at yahoo.com ; Miklosfrank at comcast.com=20
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Emailing: Blue Line @ Planetarium, Blue Line outbd at Midvale =
>>>> Center, blueline inbd Fashion Place, Blueline outbd Fashion Place, =
>>>> DSC_0453_edited-1, Green Line @ Temple Square SD70, inbound Red Line =
>>>> South Jordan Pkwy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> with apologies to anyone I omitted, or conversely, to anyone who 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> =
>>>> want these-that is why God created the delete key. Suz and I back from 
>>>> a
>>>> =
>>>> fabulous week in Utah. Day one, did some exploring in Temple Square and
>>>> =
>>>> some geneology where I discovered some neat things about my father's =
>>>> family. Then off to ride UTA, including the two new lines to Daybreak =
>>>> and West Valley Central. Although I admit to a huge bias in favor  off 
>>>> =
>>>> the SD70 cars, I think that SLC, along w/ San Diego and Portland are 
>>>> the
>>>> =
>>>> premier LRT operations-all of which use SD70s, along w/ Norfolk. the 
>>>> new
>>>> =
>>>> lines are doing ok, especially the shorter-and more interesting Green =
>>>> Line to West Valley Central. The Red Line has more modest, though =
>>>> respectable ridership, but clearly is an investment in the future, =
>>>> inasmuch as there is a huge amount of construction going on along it, =
>>>> including businesses and condo developments. The airport line is =
>>>> advancing nicely, and more slowly, work on the Sandy-Draper extension 
>>>> is
>>>> =
>>>> moving along, w/ some track laid. Three car types-original SD100's, the
>>>> =
>>>> ex-Santa Clara UTDC cars which are used at rush hour, and the 70+ =
>>>> SD70's-three of which were still under wrap near Fashion Place. The =
>>>> ridership was robust during our stay since apparently the semi-annual =
>>>> Mormon Conference was happening, along w/ a big University of Utah =
>>>> football game.
>>>> Has one brief adversarial encounter w/ a transit type who informed me =
>>>> that Department of Homeland Security bans photography of railroads. I =
>>>> challenged him on that, w/ the full litany about the Maryland 
>>>> situation,
>>>> =
>>>> the Amtrak photo contest, so he changed his tune, that photography only
>>>> =
>>>> allowed on the street, since UTA is private property. I informed au =
>>>> contraire that UTA is a publically owned agency, w/ huge public =
>>>> subsidies(you're welcome!) He declined to identify himself and was not 
>>>> =
>>>> wearing a visible name tag though he had a UTA uniform and seemed to be
>>>> =
>>>> some kind of supervisor, but he decided that it was not worth the 
>>>> battle
>>>> =
>>>> and told me to be discrete. A 68 year old gray haired grandfather-what 
>>>> =
>>>> is more discrete than that? Otehrwise only courtesy from UTA, though I 
>>>> =
>>>> probably will send the UTA GM a complaint about the harassment, along 
>>>> w/
>>>> =
>>>> some photos!
>>>> We went to Bryce Canyon which is breathtaking, drove Scenic Highway 12 
>>>> =
>>>> which is unforgetable, a night at Sundance-the Robert Redford resort w/
>>>> =
>>>> fabulous hiking and mountain vistas. We needed that after our two 
>>>> nights
>>>> =
>>>> near Bryce where we stayed in a hotel not much different from Bates =
>>>> Motel in Psycho! Only day of rain was the last one(yesterday) when the 
>>>> =
>>>> attached were taken, but they didn't turn out too bad. Sunnier photos 
>>>> to
>>>> =
>>>> follow.
>>>> Nest week medical meeting in Minneapolis-wonder what I will do in my =
>>>> free time!
>>>>
>>>> RICH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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