[PRCo] Re: 4366 on Nevergreen

[Fred Schneider]

How did 12 get changed to 21?


On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:

> The following is what we have been led to believe.  The date doesn't match,
> though, and our thought is incomplete, as well.  Any assistance will be
> appreciated.
> 
> 21  Fineview (3.0 miles; April 30, 1966, RT 18 min.)  This route featured
> the steepest grades on the PRCo system (over 12 percent).  The inbound
> routing was shared with Route 8 - Perrysville, but the outbound route was a
> single track that left Route 8 just north of the North Side business
> district and soon ascended a 12 percent grade.  Route 21 did not enter
> Downtown until June 9, 1952, when its loop was extended from Federal -
> Lacock - Sandusky - General Robinson - Federal Streets to Federal - Lacock -
> Sandusky - 7th Street Bridge - Penn - 6th -
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Fred
> Schneider
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:48 PM
> To: Pittsburgh Railways
> Subject: [PRCo] 4366 on Nevergreen
> 
> The curious thing about this item, Barry,
> 
> http://lists.dementix.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/PghPress_10_20_51.JPG
> 
> is that the route cards showed route 12 making a Sandusky, Lacock, Anderson,
> 9th St. Bridge, 9th St., Penn Avenue., Sandusky St., North Avenue loop in
> 1928 and the same in 1936-1937.   Then the transit guides in the early 1940s
> showed the route truncated on the North Side (like 21, it no longer went
> downtown).   
> 
> Now does anyone have schedules that show when service to downtown was
> restored?
> 
> By the way, there is another curious thing....   4366 was probably the last
> double-end yellow car to every have been fully repainted.  I remember seeing
> a color slide taken by John Seibert at Keating about 1950-1951 of that car
> in absolutely pristine paint.   
> 
>