[PRCo] Re: Jones DE Cars on Rt. 56B

[Dwight Long]

John

The other terminal was in the Tenth Ward of McKeesport.  This was the stub 
end of the old routing of Rt. 56 before the new Dravosburg bridge was 
opened.  As I said, it only lasted about 6 months, so understandable that 
many may not even know of its existence.

56A was just a cutback of 56 with no independent trackage, unless you count 
the Lincoln Place loop as such!

There is another track map which is an indispensable aid in studying PRC 
routes--it was put out by ERA around 1947 or 49.  It has some detail that 
the PRMA version does not.

Dwight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
To: "Pittsburgh Railways" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Jones DE Cars on Rt. 56B


>   Perhaps an erroneous assumption from the PRMA track map of Pittsburgh 
> circa 1960.  It shows the 56A Second Av. to Lincoln Place as still 
> operating, and 56B no longer operating to Evans Ave.  Because there is no 
> other terminal listed for 56B, always assumed it was like the 56A - an 
> alternate service from Pittsburgh via Second Ave., but was gone long 
> before my time. That track map - plus Electric Railroads #20 - were my 
> primary study material on PRC history during teen years.
> John   > From: dwightlong at verizon.net
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Jones DE Cars on Rt. 56B
>> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:43:18 -0400
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> How do you form the view that low speed cars would interfere with PCC and
>> high speed service on Second Avenue?  56 B was nowhere near that
>> thoroughfare.  At any rate, as it turns out, at least one "high speed" DE
>> Jones car was used on 56 B during its short life, and probably all cars 
>> used
>> on it were.  But I would opine that this had absolutely nothing to do 
>> with a
>> plan, but occurred simply because these were what DE Jones cars were
>> available that were not committed to other routes.
>>
>> It was my understanding that there were ten DE Jones cars retained for 
>> the
>> "emergency batallion."  I believe that decision occurred before all SE 
>> Jones
>> cars were removed from service.  Do you have a date on your list?
>>
>> Dwight
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Pittsburgh Railways" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:09 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Jones DE Cars on Rt. 56B
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Dwight Recently stumbled across a list (long overdue clean up) of 
>> > ten
>> > low floor cars retained for emergency purposes.  One was 5432.  Another
>> > was 5400.  Probably a PERC roster. Suspect as PRC customers took steps 
>> > to
>> > protect their livelihood from another trolley strike (buy a car) within 
>> > 1
>> > or 2 schedule changes, an increasing number of excess PCC cars could
>> > fulfill the function of an emergency car fleet.    Low speed cars on 
>> > 56B
>> > would interfer with PCC and high speed service on Second Ave.   > From:
>> > dwightlong at verizon.net
>> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> >> Subject: [PRCo] Jones DE Cars on Rt. 56B
>> >> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 02:39:08 -0400
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> It appears I only photted one DE car on 56B-it was 4397, in April of
>> >> 1953. 56B had only a month or so left at that time-its total life span
>> >> was about six months.  I think there were at least two cars required 
>> >> to
>> >> run the route, maybe even three.
>> >>
>> >> I made a mistake in my earlier comment about the ten or so DE Jones 
>> >> cars
>> >> that were speeded up.  That took place earlier than I had stated. 
>> >> What
>> >> happened near the end of the Jones car era was that some, AIR ten, of 
>> >> the
>> >> speeded up DE cars were kept for the reserve which I mentioned.
>> >>
>> >> Dwight
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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