[PRCo] Last car on 6/14 Avalon

Mon Apr 8 21:08:01 EDT 2013

The photo WAS attached. Youins just don't "believe" in the power of The
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On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> Bob
>
> No photo was attached.  No doubt the dreaded ecartis ate it, as it is wont
> to do.
>
> At about the time quoted, we were in the bar cursing Dameron.
>
> Dwight
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 7:05 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Last car on 6/14 Avalon
>
>
> >
> >
> > The last trip on 6/14-Avalon was very crowded. At the Avalon loop,
> > passengers left the trolley (1799) for brief remarks by Avalon officials,
> > and then we re-boarded for the ( need I say "quiet"?) tri p back
> downtown.
> >
> >
> >
> > I took the attached photo as the riders were starting to re-board 1799 in
> > Avalon. I believe that's John Dameron in the black coat talking to the
> > motorman. Time was around 1:00 am on Sunday, May 1, 1966.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> > <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 4:19:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of
> > oldandabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Thanks for that clarification.
> >
> > I did not ride any trip on 6/14 on that day. Went right to the Brass Rail
> > upon return of the last 21 trip, then split for Hoosierland.
> >
> > Dwight
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> > <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 4:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of
> > oldandabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Dwight,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "The second half of the last trolley day" referred to the last regularly
> >> scheduled trip on 6/14-Avalon which occured immediately following the
> >> last
> >> regularly scheduled trip on 21-Fineview..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The last regular service day for 21 and 14/6 was Saturday, April 30,
> >> 1966.
> >> The last car on 21 arrived back downtown from Fineview a little before
> >> Midnight, and then went to Tunnel CH. A few minutes later the last
> >> regular
> >> service car on 14/6 left downtown for Avalon, and returned back downtown
> >> around 2am on Sunday, May 1.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I was on the last regular service trips on both 21 and 6/14. I 've heard
> >> that there was a charter that ran on Finview after the last regular
> >> service trip there, but I don't know when that occured . I'm not sure if
> >> there was also an after-service charter on 6/14.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> >> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> >> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 2:32:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old
> >> andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> Not sure to what you refer. I was on the last trip of Rt. 21 and then a
> >> few
> >> of us retired to a Brass Rail in the Triangle (on Liberty or Penn??) to
> >> cry
> >> in our beer over the loss. What was the "last trolley day?" Some
> >> enthusiast tour?
> >>
> >> I'm sending this from my portable and don't have my records at hand or
> >> could
> >> tell you the exact date. It was in 1966 for sure.
> >>
> >> Dwight
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
> >> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> >> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 1:17 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old
> >> andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dwight,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There was a Brass Rail on E. Ohio St. Did you skip the se cond half of
> >>> the
> >>> "last trolley day" on 4/3 0/66?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That night I rode the last 21-Fine view car out to Fineview and back to
> >>> downtown, then caught the last 6/14 trolley and rode out to Avalon and
> >>> back. I took the attached photo as a group of fans on Penn Ave. made
> the
> >>> dash to board 1799.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> >>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> >>> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:43:33 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and
> >>> abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>> My last (somewhat faint) memory of the Brass Rail is consuming mass
> >>> quantities of beer in one of their outlets after I had ridden the last
> >>> ever Rt. 21 Fineview car,
> >>>
> >>> Dwight
> >>>
> >>> From: Bob Rathke
> >>> Sent: Monday, 08 April, 2013 12:23
> >>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion
> >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and
> >>> abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Fred,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> While you're remembering Fifth and Liberty Avenues, don't forget Frank
> &
> >>> Seder, Spear and May Stern department/furniture stores. Also 5&10's
> G.C.
> >>> Murphy and Grants; the Brass Rail and Bards (similar to Isaly's, but
> >>> Bard
> >>> stores were in the neighborhoods, not downtown ).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My grandmother worked at Rosenbaums before she was married. The
> >>> Rosenbaum
> >>> building was a solid structure , and it took months to dem olish it
> >>> before
> >>> they could start building the parking garage that's on the site now. My
> >>> grandfather worked at Boggs & Buhl and was an office boy for R.H.
> Boggs,
> >>> but his family encouraged him to leave the store and learn a trade. The
> >>> R.H. Boggs home on the Mexican War Streets is now a B&B.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My paternal great grandfather was fire engineer at the City of
> Allegheny
> >>> fire station No. 2 on Concord St. from 1868 to the early 1900's (see
> >>> attached photo). I also have a photo of him working in Johnstown after
> >>> the
> >>> 1889 flood (I assume that Allegheny sent fireman to Johnstown to help
> >>> out). And I have copies of his Civil War records and pension.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> About the Brass Rail: the restaurants had a large (probably 5 'X10 ')
> >>> copy
> >>> of a painting behi nd the bar. The painting depicted a 1930-style bus,
> >>> but
> >>> the bus was five stories tall and looked like a cruise ship on wheels.
> >>> The
> >>> title of the painting was, "A bus salesman's dream in 1960". I wonder
> if
> >>> that painting survived the restaurants.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> >>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> >>> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:43:23 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and
> >>> abandoned
> >>> buildings in Western Pa.
> >>>
> >>> You know you are old, Bob, when someone asks "What's a McCrorys?" Think
> >>> of
> >>> all those old store names that are no longer there. I will confine
> >>> myself
> >>> to western Pennsylvania … Woolworths, Gimbels, Kaufmans, Joseph Horne,
> >>> Rosenbaums, Boggs and Buhl, Isalys.
> >>>
> >>> Yup…. And you now have to be in your 40s to understand what communism
> >>> was
> >>> like in eastern Europe. In a way, I guess I am rather glad that I
> >>> vacationed in East Germany before the wall came down and saw it. I
> >>> guess,
> >>> as ugly as history can be, I guess it was also good for me that I
> >>> experienced the segregated southern states … black and white drinking
> >>> fountains, toilets, restaurants, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Now, how the hell do I explain to my granddaughter and her husband, who
> >>> is
> >>> of African descent, what it would have been like living in this country
> >>> 60
> >>> or more years ago?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a Facebook page containing photos of old and abondoned
> >>>> structures
> >>>> in Western Pa. It contains a few rail photos. I've posted some of my
> >>>> 1956-82 photos in the section for, "Recent posts by others".
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> See:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967?sk=photos#!/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967
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