[PRCo] McKinney Avenue restores another car

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 5 00:19:56 EDT 2013 

 
 
 
You might want to look at the Boston PCC cars Seashore was advertising for sale 7-8 years ago, including several ex. Dallas examples.  They've had a couple decades of outdoor exposure to Maine coastal weather.  
 
By comparison, the Trolleyville car that went to McKinney Ave. 
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/hicks/htm/hicks153.htm
 
Perhaps there are degrees of rancid.  A quarter century at the MBTA didn't do any favors to any of these cars.
 
 

 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:13:18 -0400
> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] McKinney Avenue restores another car
> 
> You might want to look at it first.  A lot of those former Boston cars were in pretty rancid shape.  
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
> 
> > did not know that! Maybe I might just send them a few $$ toward its 
> > restoration unless it's a near total loss.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" 
> > <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] McKinney Avenue restores another car
> > 
> > 
> > They have one.
> > 
> > 
> > On Aug 4, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Richard Allman wrote:
> > 
> >> too bad one of thee-Dallas PCC's has not made its way to MATA instead of
> >> languishing @ Seashore
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> >> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> >> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 10:09 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] McKinney Avenue restores another car
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> And, Herb, it overflows into all the other states because no textbook
> >> publisher wants to produce two editions … one for the Texas Board of
> >> Schoolbook Censors and one for the rest of the country.  So we all get
> >> history rewritten to satisfy Texas.
> >> 
> >> I never got a decent U. S. History course until I took one through the
> >> University of Maryland when I was in the army.   I still haven't had a 
> >> good
> >> World History course because our view on world history is our own history,
> >> i.e. European.  We presume, in writing world history, that Africa, South
> >> America and Asia do not exist.
> >> 
> >> You might like to read two books by James Lowen.   One is "Lies My Teacher
> >> Taught Me" and the other is "Lies Across America" --- all those things you
> >> are told on historical markers and at various tourist sights.   When I
> >> picked up the second book, I looked to see first what might be included 
> >> from
> >> my own area.   It was there, a chapter titled "You came to see the house,
> >> not hear about the man."   The people that preserved President James
> >> Buchanan's home tell you all about the house; they forget to tell you he 
> >> was
> >> gay.   I'll leave you read it yourself to see what was missed.   Great
> >> things like road signs telling about massacres … indians cause them … in 
> >> the
> >> case Lowen wrote about Mormons did it and then wrote the sign to blame it 
> >> on
> >> the native Americans.
> >> 
> >> http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0743296281
> >> 
> >> And if you think Lowen is lying … I have a great friend, a college
> >> professor, who was asked to write a history text for high schools.   After
> >> he signed the contract, then the publisher told him who would review it 
> >> for
> >> accuracy … i.e. which women's group, which black rights group, which 
> >> Spanish
> >> activist group, etc.   In other words, he had to write it to please 
> >> certain
> >> groups and he had to pay them for editing his work too.   Fortunately, 
> >> just
> >> as he had finished chapter one, the publisher was bought out and they paid
> >> him to get lost because they didn't want two competing lines of textbooks.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Aug 3, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:
> >> 
> >>> All over Texas they have a habit of "rewriting" history to suit
> >>> themselves,
> >>> including textbooks for use in the Texas public schools. I'm sure they
> >>> think they have a gosh-darn Peter Witt operating.............all the rest
> >>> of the world is wrong.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Fred Schneider
> >>> <fwschneider at comcast.net>wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> We had a discussion here about certain cars in Cleveland not being Peter
> >>>> Witts….
> >>>> 
> >>>> Well here is a video tape of a car they are calling a Peter Witt and
> >>>> "sure
> >>>> a God made green apples," it isn't.   It was at one time but when Dallas
> >>>> went one man, the center doors were received.   I would love to see 
> >>>> proof
> >>>> that Mr. Witt collected royalties.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The trucks are not right on the rebuilt car either.   Originally it had
> >>>> Brill cast frame trucks with coil springs over the journals and the
> >>>> bolsters resting on elliptical springs hanging from the frame cord.
> >>>> These
> >>>> cars never had MCB trucks in revenue service.
> >>>> 
> >>>> But it looks nice.
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuTiycs88ME
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
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> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> Herb Brannon
> >>> *In Pittsburgh...The Paris of
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> >>> *
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