[PRCo] PRCo Route72

Bob Rathke bobrathke at comcast.net
Fri Jul 12 11:38:58 EDT 2013



Don't forget that the CTS Rapid, as well as Shaker Heights Rapid Transit used CUT. 



The Fred Harvey House did a good busines in CUT, and was a regular lunch stop for me when I worked downtown in the late 60's and early 70's. 



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From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net> 
To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org> 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:23:53 AM 
Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 

Ah, but the Pennsy did not use Cleveland Union Terminal …. it had its own station.   CUT was used by B&O, NYC. NKP, Erie, perhaps I forgot something … but not PRR. 



On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Herb Brannon wrote: 

> Bob, 
> I'm surprised that a train with the name, "Afternoon Steeler" was permitted 
> inside Cleveland Union Terminal. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke at comcast.net> wrote: 
> 
>> I watched the first westbound train to leave Penn St ation on that bridge 
>> in 1955 - the Afternoon Steeler to Cleveland. 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net> 
>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" < 
>> pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org> 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:26:38 PM 
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo  Route72 
>> 
>> Anyone else would have bought a 4-8-4.    Change that.   Anyone else with 
>> brains would have bought a diesel.   Think of NP, GN, Southern, ACL, SAL, 
>> ATSF, even Reading … all those who proved during WW2 how well EMD's product 
>> worked. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Dwight Long wrote: 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Bob 
>>> 
>>> Done so that T1 locos would not stall leaving the station westbound. 
>> The rigid frame caused the drivers to bind up on the curve, and most 
>> westbound trains with T1s had to be assisted by a snapper to get out of the 
>> station. 
>>> 
>>> Of course before the project was finished, so were the T1s. 
>>> 
>>> Dwight 
>>> 
>>> From: Bob Rathke 
>>> Sent: Thursday, 11 July, 2013 12:55 
>>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion 
>>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72 
>>> That bridge from the PRR station to the 6-track double-deck bridge over 
>> the Allegheny River was replaced by the current bridge (with a more gradual 
>> curve) in the spring of 1955. 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Raymond Lattner" <rlattner at pa.gov> 
>>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion ( 
>> pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org)" < 
>> pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:22:33 AM 
>>> Subject: [PRCo] PRCo  Route72 
>>> 
>>> Attached is a pic of route 72 Bloomfield car. Penn ave. downtown. 
>>> 
>>>> From 
>> http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=hpicasc_ci;med=1;q1=AIS.2012.03;size=20;c=hpicasc;back=back1373559754;subview=detail;resnum=322;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-201203.1917.6503;viewid=20130206-HPICASC-0323.TIF# 
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>>> Ray 
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