[PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT

Thu Jul 18 12:39:25 EDT 2013

John

I think you will find that 304, the one I sent the photo of in service in the year 1953, went to and is at Fox River.  303 is shown at NORM.

Ole debbil memory again!  I have the same problem, but believe I’m correct in this case.

Dwight

From: John Swindler 
Sent: Thursday, 18 July, 2013 11:23
To: Western PA Trolley discussion 
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT

Thanks for info on 302.  Suspected it became a 'parts' car, but that was just a guess.  

When Trolleyville collection dispersed in 2009, 304 went to Northern Ohio and 303 went to Fox River.  (Should check the museum websites to  verify the latter two car numbers - not good to rely on memory).  

Of course this list is more familiar with certain other parts of the dispersion:  4145, 2227 and Toledo to PTM, plus a freight motor  destined to become a 'parts' car.  

> From: hrbran at cavtel.net
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:10:25 -0400
> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT
> 
> John,
> Cars 302, 303, 304 and 306 were sold, by SHRT, to Gerald Brookins in 1954.
> Car 302 was scrapped by Gerald Brookins in 1985 and used for parts. Car 306
> went to Illinois Railway Museum in 1992. My paperwork only goes as far as
> 1999 and does not indicate the disposition of cars 303 and 304. These two
> were still at Trolleyville in 1999.
> 
> Interesting to note is that an agreement was signed between SHRT and
> Cleveland Transit System concerning these cars. The agreement stipulated
> that this series of SHRT car would not be operated in what was to become
> the "joint operational territory" between East 55th Street and Terminal
> Tower Station. Their last date of operation was March 14, 1955. The cars
> were slow (it was felt they would slow down operations in the joint
> territory) and also the required "trip arms" (which had to be installed as
> a safety factor for use in the joint territory) would be too hard to
> install in these cars.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>wrote:
> 
> >
> > Didn't Brookins save four of those Fox River Cars???
> >
> > One went to IRM, one went to Northern Ohio, one went to Fox River.  Assume
> > the fourth might have been scrapped somewhere along the line for parts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: dwightlong at verizon.net
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:35:32 -0400
> > > CC: 1artwheeler at gmail.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Cleveland and SHRT
> > >
> > >
> > > Guys
> > >
> > > Here is a real Peter Witt car, however, on 25 August 1953, no longer
> > being used in Peter Witt fare collection mode, but rather one man, front
> > entrance.  This at Public Square a few months before the last line,
> > Madison, Crumped.
> > >
> > > And forget those old center door clunkers beloved only by Clevelanders
> > (Sorry Dennis and JWV!).  Here is the real deal of a gem on SHRT, same day
> > as above, 304 at Shaker Square.  Yes, I rode it out from Terminal Tower.
> >  Sorry it is not a very good photo compositionwise, but it sure brings back
> > memories.  For those who may not know, these 1923-built St. Louis cars were
> > second hand from the Aurora, Fox River and Elgin interurban in Illinois, a
> > portion of which is still in use as the Fox  River Trolley Museum.  This
> > very car was saved and lived for years at Brookins, but is now back home at
> > South Elgin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dwight
> > >
> > > From: Bob Rathke
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 17 July, 2013 14:32
> > > To: Western PA Trolley discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] How far off TRACK can we get????
> > >
> > >
> > > Getting back on track, I am attaching three photos that I took on the
> > SHR T in the mid-60's:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - PCC 94 at Shaker Square on 9/15/66 (94 is now at PTM).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - PCC 95 at Shaker Square  leading an outbound 3-car train onto the Van
> > Aiken line on 9/15/66.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Body of a  double-end trolley that may have been used as an
> > office/storage facility. Taken  at Van Aiken loop on 8/15/64.  Note the
> > person in the fourth window from the right who appears to be writing at a
> > desk.   Does anyone kn ow the  number/history of this car?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> > > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <
> > pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:40:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] How far off TRACK can we get????
> > >
> > > And remember, Derrick, when you could hand your luggage to an airline
> > representative at the curb and he would tag it and it would go onto the
> > plane.  You didn't even have to carry it into the terminal.    Back in the
> > days when they wanted business …. before they give you the business.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote:
> > >
> > > > Airlines?   I can remember when you could dash up to the gate with 15
> > > >> minutes to spare, get on the plane and go ….
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Me too. July 2001. 28x was late, I got to the airport at 8:06am and
> > was not
> > > > the last person seated on my 8:15 departure, which left on time.
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