[PRCo] Steelers
Dwight Long
dwightlong at verizon.net
Fri Jul 12 14:12:59 EDT 2013
Dennis
But even in those years there was a major rivalry between the Steelers and the Browns. Folks in Pgh. would charter extra cars on the P&LE (and perhaps the PRR as well) for fans going to Cleveland to take in the games.
Dwight
From: DF Cramer
Sent: Friday, 12 July, 2013 07:19
To: Western PA Trolley discussion
Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72
Remember, this was a time when professional football was not the institution in thinks it is today and the Browns won championships in 1950, 54, 55, & 64. They came in second in 51,52,53,57,65,68,69. The Steelers did not begin their legacy until the 1970's long after any PRR (or PC) passenger service to Cleveland ended.
Dennis F. Cramer
http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:03:59 +0000
> From: bobrathke at comcast.net
> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72
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> There was also a Morning Steeler to Cleveland, and both the morning and afternoon eastbound trains were also called Steelers.
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> PRR passenger trains didn't use CUT - they operated out of the PRR station on West 6th St. and the lakeshore. Attached is a photo I took of that station on 7/8/58. The view is to the west, with Lake Erie in the background. Note the small PRR coach yard in the right center of the photo.
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> The PRR downtown station was closed about a year after this photo was taken, and after that PRR trains terminated at the E. 55th St. Station.
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> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:57:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72
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> Bob,
> I'm surprised that a train with the name, "Afternoon Steeler" was permitted
> inside Cleveland Union Terminal.
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> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke at comcast.net> wrote:
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> > I watched the first westbound train to leave Penn St ation on that bridge
> > in 1955 - the Afternoon Steeler to Cleveland.
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <
> > pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:26:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72
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> > Anyone else would have bought a 4-8-4. Change that. Anyone else with
> > brains would have bought a diesel. Think of NP, GN, Southern, ACL, SAL,
> > ATSF, even Reading … all those who proved during WW2 how well EMD's product
> > worked.
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> > On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Dwight Long wrote:
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> > > Bob
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> > > Done so that T1 locos would not stall leaving the station westbound.
> > The rigid frame caused the drivers to bind up on the curve, and most
> > westbound trains with T1s had to be assisted by a snapper to get out of the
> > station.
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> > > Of course before the project was finished, so were the T1s.
> > >
> > > Dwight
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> > > From: Bob Rathke
> > > Sent: Thursday, 11 July, 2013 12:55
> > > To: Western PA Trolley discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRCo Route72
> > > That bridge from the PRR station to the 6-track double-deck bridge over
> > the Allegheny River was replaced by the current bridge (with a more gradual
> > curve) in the spring of 1955.
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> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Raymond Lattner" <rlattner at pa.gov>
> > > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion (
> > pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org)" <
> > pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 11:22:33 AM
> > > Subject: [PRCo] PRCo Route72
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> > > Attached is a pic of route 72 Bloomfield car. Penn ave. downtown.
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> > >> From
> > http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=hpicasc_ci;med=1;q1=AIS.2012.03;size=20;c=hpicasc;back=back1373559754;subview=detail;resnum=322;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-201203.1917.6503;viewid=20130206-HPICASC-0323.TIF#
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