[PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal
Bob Rathke
bobrathke at comcast.net
Sun Oct 27 14:50:38 EDT 2013
In 1987 I was invited to a sales demonstration at Western Union where they launched what we now know as a search engine. It was a primitive, multi-step process. After a company paid a monthly fee, it got access to the WU via your computer and modem. You then did a Boolean Operator search similar to that used in libraries: key words linked with the Operators such as OR, AND and NOT. If you wrere looking for an article on Ford trucks written by John Smith, you would enter, "Ford AND Trucks AND John AND Smith NOT Jonathon". Western Union would then reply saying that John Smith wrote an article on Ford Trucks in the January issue of Automotive Digest. Your next step was to get that magazine article, usually by going to a local library, or requesting a Fax copy from the magazine publisher. Not quite a Google search.
We didn't take up Western Union on its offer, and instead found that a trip to a large library accomplished the same results at no cost.
----- Original Message -----
From: "PC" <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 1:11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal
Did not the actual internet have its start with the military?
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On Sat, 10/26/13, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal
To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
Date: Saturday, October 26, 2013, 5:13 PM
John,
There was a "kinda" Internet back in the early/mid 1980s. It
was nothing
like we're using today, however.
I had just bought a brand new Commodore 64 complete system
at Gimbles in
downtown Pittsburgh. Interesting that both Gimbles and the
Commodore 64
have gone to the museum of memories. My C64 was very
"cutting edge" for
1983/84 inasmuch as I had the keyboard, monitor ( nothing
more than a
television set with only green and black color), dataset
(for programs and
storage on cassette tape), two (mind you, two !) floppy disk
drives (so I
didn't have to switch between program and data-storage disks
on only one
disk drive), and a dot-matrix printer with these little DIP
switches in the
back which could be set to produce ten different print
styles, and a little
rectangle shaped box which plugged into the back of the
keyboard and was
called a "modem". For what I paid for all that stuff I could
have used that
same dollar amount today and purchased three or four
complete computer
set-ups.
Anyway, I wanted to use this investment to its fullest so I
signed up for
this service which was advertised as "connecting computers
and their users"
for the purpose of transmitting "mail-like electronic
messages" and
providing "interest groups" on varying subject matter. It
was, for all
purposes, the beginning of the Internet. The "Mail-like
electronic message"
service was called MCI Mail. You could send messages to
other users who
were on this system and you could also sent messages to
people not on the
service via this MCI Mail in selected US cities. For people
not hooked into
the "network" via computer, the messages went to a MCI
facility (located in
several major cities, Pittsburgh included) and were then
delivered by a
messenger to any address in downtown Pittsburgh or the
downtown area of the
other cities in the network. The drawbacks were many,
including the
messenger service, the fact that only the downtown areas of
several major
cities could be accessed via this service, and the cost.
This service last
only a few months as more and more people and businesses
began using
computers and became connected.
There were no photographs on this system, only plain text.
However, it was
the start of what we have today and I'm happy that I was a
part of it.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM, John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> In 1968/9 Point Park College had a relatively new IBM
System 360 computer.
> It was a stand alone unit about 5-6 feet
high. An instructor said that
> the CPU took up less than a foot of this height - the
rest was empty space.
> This was to fool purchasing agents who expected
computers to be big and
> bulky. Miniaturization was already occurring.
>
> Doubt if you were thinking of using the internet in
early 1980s, Fred.
> Mid-1990s, perhaps, but not 1980s.
>
> A problem in the 1980s was the proliferation of
computer manufacturers and
> non-compatible software. Also speed even when
there was a program that
> could convert from one language to another. We're
talking 8086 and 286
> chips. Today it seems that instantaneous just
doesn't seem fast enough. I
> remember a LOTUS 1-2-3 spreadsheet. Enter a bunch
of data, tell it to
> compute, then go for a cup of coffee. It was used
to produce the
> Pennsylvania Mass Transit Statistical Report.
>
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 02:04:10 +0000
> > From: bobrathke at comcast.net
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal
> >
> > Most of us from the 1970's have these computer
stories, Fred. I used my
> first word processor in 1979 - a Digital computer the
size of a small
> refrigerator with a 9" monochrome screen, plus a noisy
daisy-wheel impact
> printer. Hardly desktop, and no hard drive - the
word processing program
> ran from an 8" floppy, and documents were stored on
another 8" floppy.
> Those floppies had the massive capacity of 840KB each.
That Digital
> computer cost $12,000, but it wasn't linked to
anything, so in 1980 the
> company bought a modem to connect to another computer.
That modem cost $750.
> >
> > Bob.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <
> pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:48:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > I can recall when the state had a mammoth computer
room in the L&I
> Building in Harrisburg to handle all Employment Service
data reporting and
> all the Unemployment Claims …. huge place on a raised
floor to accommodate
> both the cabling and the air-conditing ducts to keep
the main frame
> computers cool.
> >
> > Today I know what is sitting on my desk … each
of them …. has far more
> power than what put the man on the moon back in the
1960s. Probably the
> computers in most of our cars have more ooomph than
that computer that put
> Armstrong on the moon.
> >
> > In the early 1980s, I was the head of an
occupational information
> program in Pennsylvania to provide data to schools and
anyone else who
> might need it … mostly for counseling
kids. The federal government wanted
> it all done on main frame
computers. In Pennsylvania, we were
thinking
> about doing it on desk top computers and passing out
the information on
> floppy disks or linking them by this new internet to
desk tops in
> Harrisburg. Washington told me that if
we tried to do it that way, we
> would not be given any grant
money. Obviously someone who was making
main
> frame computers had lobbied heavily to have things done
his way. Funny
> thing about that … two years later, my successor told
me that I had been
> right and we're doing it your way.
> >
> > It's not your grandmother's Buick….
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:
> >
> > > In 1965 I wrote and produced a slide
presentation for training U.S.
> Steel's customer service people in their offices around
the U.S. I made
> several visits to the Muriel St. facility to get
background information on
> U.S. Steel's computer capabilities. I remember
being impressed with the
> building's climate controlled environment and the
raised floors to
> accomodate under-floor computer cables.
> > >
> > > Today, an i-pad is probably more powerful
that the computer system in
> that building in 1965.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > From: "Derrick Brashear" <shadow at dementix.org>
> > > To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <
> pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:05:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal
> > >
> > > it's a computer center
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Bob Rathke
<bobrathke at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> In the 1970's, USS's Muriel St. facility
was the Direct Mail Center -
> > >> computer operations, literature storage
and fulfillment. If it's
> still
> > >> there, I'm not sure about its current
function.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>
> > >> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> > >> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <
> > >> pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > >> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:16:14
PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and
Coal
> > >>
> > >> It seems that back in the "big steel"
days the main producers of
> smoke and
> > >> fire were the USS Homestead Works and
just about everything J & L had
> > >> operating.
> > >>
> > >> USS also has some type of operation on
Muriel Street in Southside.
> I'm not
> > >> sure what they do there, however. USS
also has a research center in
> > >> Homestead still operating. Even with all
these operating facilities,
> the
> > >> number of people employed by USS comes
nowhere near what those
> facilities
> > >> used to employ.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Dwight
Long <dwightlong at verizon.net
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Herb
> > >>>
> > >>> But Irvin works is not a primary
producer but rather a rolling mill
> (as
> > >>> you said) and so would not generate
the "fire and brimstone" that
> > >>> characterized a primary steel
producer.
> > >>>
> > >>> I went by Clairton on a train in July
and did not notice any smoke at
> > >> all,
> > >>> just some condensed water
vapor. I think the coking processes are so
> > >>> contained these days that very little
emissions emanate from it.
> Besides
> > >>> environmental concerns, the
steelmakers have learned that the
> effluents
> > >>> from the coke making process are
valuable by products that need to be
> > >>> trapped and sold. The days of
the beehive coke ovens that spewed
> all the
> > >>> byproducts into the atmosphere are
long gone.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dwight
> > >>> ----- Original
Message -----
> > >>> From: Herb Brannon
> > >>> To: Western PA
Trolley discussion
> > >>> Sent: Monday,
October 21, 2013 10:41 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo]
Burning Leaves--and Coal
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Bob R,
> > >>> It still had that
"orange glow" when I first moved here in 1972.
> Plus,
> > >>> when
> > >>> atmospheric
conditions were right, it smelled like fire &
> brimstone,
> > >>> everywhere. Even
today, on humid days, I still smell the "fire &
> > >>> brimstone" coming
from the Irvin Works just over the hill (on Camp
> > >> Hollow
> > >>> Rd) to the
south-east of my place.
> > >>>
> > >>> Contrary to popular
opinion steel is not dead in Pittsburgh. The
> > >> Clairton
> > >>> Works still produces
coke as it always did, the Edgar Thompson
> Works
> > >>> makes
> > >>> primary steel, the
Irvin Works produces rolled steel and the
> relatively
> > >>> new
> > >>> Mckeesport Tubular
Works (old National Works, now reopened) makes
> > >> tubular
> > >>> products for the
Marcellus Shale drilling industry. So the sulphur
> and
> > >>> fire
> > >>> & brimstone can
still be smelled on humid days and the orange glow
> is
> > >>> still
> > >>> available in
Braddock and Clairton.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013
at 2:46 PM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke at comcast.net
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Driving south
from Zelienople at night in the 1950's you didn't
> need
> > >> a
> > >>> > compass to
locate Pittsburgh - the sky there always had an orange
> > >> glow.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ----- Original
Message -----
> > >>> >
> > >>> > From: "John
Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> > >>> > To: "Western PA
Trolley discussion" <
> > >>> > pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > >>> > Sent: Monday,
October 21, 2013 10:16:09 AM
> > >>> > Subject: Re:
[PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Was chatting
with some PTM visitors yesterday, and among the
> > >> "Pittsburg
> > >>> > smells"
mentioned was J&L sulfur smell upon exiting Squirrel
Hill
> > >>> Tunnels
> > >>> > and heading
downgrade to Brady St. exit. They were old
enough
> to
> > >>> remember
> > >>> > air pollution
from late 1940s - (before my time).
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > From: dwightlong at verizon.net
> > >>> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> > >>> > > Date: Mon,
21 Oct 2013 11:04:35 -0400
> > >>> > > Subject:
Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves--and Coal
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Herb
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > In Beaver
burning next to the curb was OK on concrete streets
> (we
> > >>> lived
> > >>> > on one) or
brick ones (still several left in the 50s) but not on
> > >>> asphalt
> > >>> > nor tarred
ones!
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Tar?
When I was in first or second grade I came home from
> school
> > >> for
> > >>> > lunch. On
the way back to school the alley that I used as a
> shortcut
> > >>> was
> > >>> > being freshly
tarred. I followed the tar dispensing truck,
> > >> fascinated.
> > >>> > When I
got to school I was sent home immediately. I looked
> like the
> > >>> > proverbial
tarbaby. Lots of turpentine and stiff scrubbing
> later,
> > >> and
> > >>> a
> > >>> > new suit of
clothes, I returned and was admitted.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > And we
still had plenty of coal furnaces in our town back then,
> > >>> although
> > >>> > our house used
gas. I well recall the smell of the coal burning
> on
> > >>> cold
> > >>> > winter days
whilst delivering the Pittsburgh Press to my paper
> route
> > >>> >
customers. The last time I encountered that smell was
just a few
> > >>> years ago
> > >>> > in a suburb of
Budapest while fotting the trams there. Brought
> back
> > >>> many
> > >>> > memories!
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Dwight
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > From: Herb
Brannon
> > >>> > > Sent:
Monday, 21 October, 2013 10:48
> > >>> > > To:
Western PA Trolley discussion
> > >>> > > Subject:
Re: [PRCo] Burning Leaves
> > >>> > > When I was
a child, in Akron, the common practice was to burn
> the
> > >>> leaves
> > >>> > > in the
street but along the curb stones. Sometimes the piles of
> > >>> leaves
> > >>> > were
> > >>> > > so large
that the fires would become too large and would
> spread to
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > treelawn.
Then the fire department would be called to put out
> the
> > >>> fires.
> > >>> > It
> > >>> > > made for
an exciting day or evening. Ranking right up there
> with
> > >> the
> > >>> > smell
> > >>> > > of burning
leaves are also the smell of coal smoke and the
> smell of
> > >>> fresh
> > >>> > >
tar.............three of the "little joys of life" now gone
by
> the
> > >>> > wayside.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Mon,
Oct 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Dwight Long <
> > >>> dwightlong at verizon.net
> > >>> > >wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Herb
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > I can
remember back in the 50s coming back to Beaver from
> auto
> > >>> trips to
> > >>> > > > the
East that involved the Pa Turnpike—we would use the
> > >> Warrendale
> > >>> > exit and
> > >>> > > > the
back roads to Beaver. Coming down into the (Beaver)
> valley
> > >>> off the
> > >>> > > > hill
the whole floor of the valley would be engulfed in leaf
> > >> smoke.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
Unhealthy, they say, but it sure did convey the impression
> that
> > >>> Autumn
> > >>> > was
> > >>> > > > upon
us!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
Dwight
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > From:
Herb Brannon
> > >>> > > > Sent:
Sunday, 20 October, 2013 10:36
> > >>> > > > To:
Western PA Trolley discussion
> > >>> > > >
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Phil asked about music
> > >>> > > > You
mentioned something I really miss.............the smell
> of
> > >>> burning
> > >>> > > >
leaves in October.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On
Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:37 AM, DF Cramer <
> > >>> alto_trombone at hotmail.com
> > >>> > > >
>wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
Well, what have I been up to? The beginning of the month I
> > >>> performed
> > >>> > > > >
Copland, Brahms, & Dvorak with the Butler County
> Symphony,our
> > >> (my
> > >>> > wife
> > >>> > > > >
plays cello) 28th season with the ensemble. I am back at
> IUP
> > >> and
> > >>> > > >
delivered
> > >>> > > > >
two arrangements of French Noels from the Baroque period to
> > >>> begin the
> > >>> > > > >
semester and last week conducted a first reading of my "The
> > >>> Eternal
> > >>> > > >
Flame",
> > >>> > > > >
a commemorative piece for double trombone choir and
> narrator I
> > >>> wrote
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > > > >
mark the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination.
> All of
> > >>> that
> > >>> > will
> > >>> > > > be
> > >>> > > > >
performed on November 19 at the university. Next week I
> perform
> > >>> with
> > >>> > IUP
> > >>> > > > >
brass & organ faculty at Zion Lutheran in Indiana for
> > >> Reformation
> > >>> > Sunday
> > >>> > > > >
and the following week we are doing Charlie Chaplin's "City
> > >>> Lights"
> > >>> > in
> > >>> > > > >
Butler. Chaplin created the musical score for this silent
> film
> > >>> and we
> > >>> > > > will
> > >>> > > > >
be showing the film as we perform. (Side note: if you want
> > >>> tickets
> > >>> > let me
> > >>> > > > >
know as soon as possible--I usually get 4 free ones)
> > >>> > > > >
Other than that, I spent quality time with Ed at the
> Alle-Kiski
> > >>> > > >
Historical
> > >>> > > > >
Society, led a new operator training class at PTM, printed
> and
> > >>> > stuffed
> > >>> > > > >
ballots for PTM, and am going to the opera today to see
> Aida
> > >>> > (football
> > >>> > > > fan
> > >>> > > > >
alert--Franco Harris is leading the Grand March in the
> opera
> > >>> today)
> > >>> > > > >
I spend lots of time practicing and cleaning up
leaves. I
> > >> mulch
> > >>> > some and
> > >>> > > > >
burn others---yes we are still permitted to burn here.
> > >>> > > > >
If you missed it--I also performed at the PTM 50th
> Anniversary
> > >>> > luncheon.
> > >>> > > > >
See the most recent issue of PTM Trolley Fare, Fred
> Schneider
> > >>> took
> > >>> > some
> > >>> > > > >
great images.
> > >>> > > > >
Dennis F. Cramer
> > >>> > > > >
http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:49:49 -0700
> > >>> > > > >
> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com
> > >>> > > > >
> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> > >>> > > > >
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] still having issues
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> Stereo-vision isn't it Mr.Cramer! Soapbox
opportunity;
> make
> > >>> the
> > >>> > most
> > >>> > > > of
> > >>> > > > >
it!
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> You have not recently mentioned anything about your
> concert
> > >> or
> > >>> > music
> > >>> > > > >
engagements.
> > >>> > > > >
> I find them fascinating. Music is not at all
unlike
> laughter
> > >>> is
> > >>> > it;
> > >>> > > > >
both speak a universal language.
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> Yes; BB are the last posts I have seen. There was
not
> much
> > >> of
> > >>> > anything
> > >>> > > > >
before your BB posts for several weeks. You mentioned
a
> book
> > >> in
> > >>> > relation
> > >>> > > > >
to this; please tell more.
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> Phil
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> --------------------------------------------
> > >>> > > > >
> On Sat, 10/19/13, DF Cramer <alto_trombone at hotmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> Subject: [PRCo] still having issues
> > >>> > > > >
> To: "pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org"
<
> > >>> > > > >
pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> > >>> > > > >
> Date: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 3:52 AM
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> it seemed very interesting that after
> > >>> > > > >
> I posted on the list, several emails came
through. I
> assume
> > >>> people
> > >>> > > > were
> > >>> > > > >
responding with reply all. I have received no posts
from
> the
> > >>> list
> > >>> > other
> > >>> > > > >
than those dealing with Billy Baxter.
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> Dennis F. Cramer
> > >>> > > > >
> http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
>
> > >>> > > > >
> _______________________________________________
> > >>> > > > >
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> > >>> > > > >
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> > >>> > > > *In
Pittsburgh...*
> > >>> > > >
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