[PRCo] so what was done to west penn 714?

D Brashear shadow at gmail.com
Wed Dec 3 11:59:37 EST 2014


that was my speculation. the headsign is clearly west penn and i suspect
nothing else actually is

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> The 250s that survived the arrival of the 830s were taken to Connellsville
> no later than May 1937 and were scrapped soon thereafter.  It is unlikely
> they were ever in service on the Irwin route, the dash sign for which would
> have contained Trafford as the westernmost community on the line at that
> point in time, so that artifact is clearly not from a West Penn “car 255.”
> The West Penn headlights we have in our archive are not labeled for
> specific car numbers; that doesn’t say AV didn’t do that, but I have no
> evidence that they did.  Headlights were completely interchangeable, as
> were the destination signs (except for those on the 830s), thus it is
> extremely unlikely that West Penn would have spent the time and money to
> number them for individual cars.
>
>
>
> This is not a matched pair!
>
>
>
> *From:* D Brashear [mailto:shadow at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:19 AM
>
> *To:* Edward H. Lybarger
> *Cc:* Western PA Trolley discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [PRCo] so what was done to west penn 714?
>
>
>
> well, no claim the headsign was from 255, only the headlight.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> 250-262 were ex-Allegheny Valley cars and did not have permanent
> headlights.  Neither did they have headsigns, as you note.  I detect snake
> oil.
>
>
>
> *From:* D Brashear [mailto:shadow at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:36 AM
> *To:* Edward H. Lybarger
>
>
> *Cc:* Western PA Trolley discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [PRCo] so what was done to west penn 714?
>
>
>
> seemed fishy to me, he also posted a pic of a west penn headsign (sure)
> and a headlight he claimed was from west penn 255. so.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> There is a reference to other HL equipment in this document.  Certainly not
> applicable to any West Penn passenger cars.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pittsburgh-railways
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> Brashear via Pittsburgh-railways
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 7:44 AM
> To: Dwight Long
> Cc: Western PA Trolley discussion
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] so what was done to west penn 714?
>
> Well, that's the claim.
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >  WP????714?
> >
> > Dwight
> >
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> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:40 PM
> > *Subject:* [PRCo] so what was done to west penn 714?
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