[PRCo] Greensburg and North Vandergrift questions

D Brashear shadow at gmail.com
Sun Dec 14 17:54:29 EST 2014


There's westmoreland county railways maps at trolley.dementix.org that I got from Ed like 10 years ago

Daria

> On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Stephen Titchenal via Pittsburgh-railways <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm starting to update my route maps for the Pittsburgh Area Interurban
> Lines, in advance of visiting the PTM Archive next year.
> 
> 
> 
> Questions related to Interurban routes:
> 
> Greensburg: 
> 
> 1.       The maps in the CERA West Penn Traction book and the PTM West Penn
> Railways booklet are different.  CERA shows a turn on the Otterman line at
> Hamilton extending to Ludwick, but the PTM map shows it ending at Hamilton
> and Otterman.
> 
> 2.       The CERA map shows the line on Alexander extending to Weaver before
> turning onto Green. The PTM map shows the line on Alexander extending only
> to Stanton (misspelled Station?) before turning onto Green.
> 
> 
> 
> There is a 1949 and 1950 Greensburg Map at Penn State Map Library. Anybody
> checked that or another contemporary map to confirm the correct locations?
> Or have access to another map of Greensburg from before the abandonment?
> 
> 
> 
> North Vandergrift:
> 
>                The map in Dennis Cramer's Trolleys of Armstrong County
> seems to show the line closer to the river than my tracing from the 1938
> aerials and digital elevation data. It sure looks like it would have been on
> a private right-of-way west of Lincoln Ave until it joined Lincoln Ave (rt
> 66) around 3rd St and then continued along Lincoln until going back on
> private right-of-way east of town but Dennis and Ed must have a reason for
> showing the route which I assume follows the alley between Lincoln and
> Jefferson?
> 
> 
> 
> Latrobe:
> 
>                The discussion last year on the list and the map Bob Netzlof
> drew clears up questions I had, but also shows the Westmorland County Street
> Railway that I cannot find any route documentation for.  
> 
> 
> 
> FYI 
> 
> Penn State Library Digital Collection includes a
> 
> 1920 Lewis' Pittsburgh Street & Trolley Guide
> 
> http://collection1.libraries.psu.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/digitalbk
> s2/id/15293/rec/3
> 
> 
> 
> I have attached a spreadsheet with the Suburban lines transcribed. Lewis
> gives the Routes a letter/number designation. I am assuming these were
> assigned by Lewis rather than as an official designation of the Routes. For
> some reason there is no Route B or H. Were these in earlier Lewis guides and
> abandoned before 1920?
> 
> 
> 
> Stephen Titchenal
> 
> Stephen at Titchenal.com
> 
> railsandtrails.com
> 
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